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Re: Organic Maps

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Post by hedora »

vintagedave wrote: post #55

This was the first time I’d heard of the app, but due to comments in this thread I downloaded it. * Website, ethos: straightforward. “Old internet” vibes, love it. They seem very active, have a presence on every platform, very impressive * The app seems very nice. Simple clear UI. Lots of features. I need to experiment for more than a few minutes but I get the impression it could replace Google Maps for me, especiall…

I like this app, and would love to see it succeed, but the offline app flow is a huge downgrade from my map app of choice (Here We Go; formerly Nokia Maps).

I just tell it what countries (or states / regions) to download, and it downloads them. Then, if cell coverage will be spotty, I tap the “work offline” slider, which disables traffic, but also means that search is on device and instant.

This is how literally every map program I used before MapQuest worked. I don’t understand why modern interfaces don’t support this.

For reference, California’s maps (including business listings) are 856 MB. The total map size for all the regions I have taken this phone to is under 3GB.

Re: Organic Maps

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Post by matkoniecz »

wds wrote: post #324
izacus wrote: post #12

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> Do not blindly trust it. Map data can be very out of date in some places, especially on remote-ish hiking trails. Also, for the love of everything that's holy, do the same with Apple/Google Maps. They can be horribly wrong to the point of being actively dangerous.

Can't trust Apple/Google, can't trust OSM, can't trust paper maps... What's the right answer here?

> What's the right answer here?

Do not ignore reality.

Do not drive around signs announcing that bridge is closed, for an example.

Re: Organic Maps

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Post by chefandy »

culi wrote: post #439
ex-googlemaps wrote: post #180

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There are significantly more people using the other modes, especially in active navigation. For example, it’s well known that Google detects traffic through the movement of active users (there was the wagon of phones traffic jam experiment). Imagine trying to do something similar with the amount of cyclists actively using Google with the necessary privacy settings enabled on any given route. It would be noisy but pos…

What exactly makes the challenge of cycle so much harder than walking? Also is there really 0 ways you could use pedestrian mode data for biking directions? Even if marginally or to confirm hypotheses mostly based on cycling data Lastly, is there anything stopping you from contributing potential innovations to open source alternatives?

In most densely populated areas near where I live in southern New England, bikes are vehicles that, in most cases, must operate on the roadway. I'd get a ticket for riding a bike across a pedestrian bridge or down an urban sidewalk.

Re: Organic Maps

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Post by unwind »

vintagedave wrote: post #55

This was the first time I’d heard of the app, but due to comments in this thread I downloaded it. * Website, ethos: straightforward. “Old internet” vibes, love it. They seem very active, have a presence on every platform, very impressive * The app seems very nice. Simple clear UI. Lots of features. I need to experiment for more than a few minutes but I get the impression it could replace Google Maps for me, especiall…

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Re: Organic Maps

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Post by CynicusRex »

NelsonMinar wrote: post #282
KoftaBob wrote: post #67

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Just a heads up for context: "In November 2014, Maps.me was acquired by Mail.Ru Group for 542 million Russian rubles" "On November 2, 2020, Daegu Limited bought Maps.me for 1.56 Billion Russian rubles. Daegu Limited is announced to be part of Parity.com Group" "Parity.com Group is privately held and is headquartered in Zug, Switzerland. It was founded by Viktor Mangazeev and Alex Grebnev in 2018. " https://markets.ft…

maps.me got turned into a cryptocurrency scam. It is bad software now, hence the great fork of Organic Maps.

And it soon will be again it seems https://organicmaps.app/donate/.

Re: Organic Maps

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Post by BizarreByte »

benhurmarcel wrote: post #225
Maxion wrote: post #94

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Am I just old if I as a developer think that 10mbit/s is plenty enough? I could probably do with 1mbit/s and still be about as productive as I am now.

You need ~25Mbps to stream 4k content.

I rarely steam more than 720p. Seems pointless for me personally, especially given I don't like wearing my glasses to watch TV.

Re: Organic Maps

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Post by chaz6 »

I am very happy that this exists, great job! Unfortunately there is one important feature missing for me. On Android I cannot change the storage location.

Edit: I was mistaken, the option is not available while maps are downloading. It is perfect!

Re: Organic Maps

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Post by pSYoniK »

When I went full "no-google" on my smartphone I had to find a Google Maps alternative. Organic Maps filled the gap nicely and I've used it for personal navigation about 95% of the time since (2ish years now).

The one thing that makes me pull up gmaps now is public transport routing in new cities where the information boards in bus/tram/metro stations doesnt help me figure out the routes.

Also, for driving OM offers less hand-holding than GM so it took a while to get used to that, but it made me a better driver. I now use OM to get an idea of which way to go and thn rely on public signs to drive. It's been really amazing.

OM also just wins hands down when I'm hiking and cycling. I've donatrd to the project each year but every once in a while I'm just so happy with itthat I feel bad for not being able to afford giving them more money.

Re: Organic Maps

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Post by pmontra »

aix1 wrote: post #175
palata wrote: post #79

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If you find it "pretty good", I guess you have never tried an OpenStreetMap-based app like Organic Maps. I also like OSMAnd a lot (I use both for different use-cases).

> I also like OSMAnd a lot (I use both for different use-cases). This is the first come I come across Organic Maps but I do use OSMAnd. I'm wondering how the two compare and would love to hear more about the use cases you have for each of them.

I dowloaded Organic Maps ten minutes ago so take my comparison with a grain of salt. I could have missed some features in OM. Here we go:

Moving the map is much faster in OM than in OSMAnd. I hope that OSMAnd study the code of OM.

The visualization in OM is much nicer. Another thing to copy.

OM is extremely better at displaying POIs and their information. Again, copy it.

Despite the claims it seems that OM does not show walking and cycling routes. OSMAnd shows them with their name, that matches the one you see on signposts along the routes.

OM does not seem to have a way to record a route and save it as gpx. OSMAnd does that.

OM does not seem to have a way to place markers on the map. I use them to plan new routes for biking, then I follow the markers. Navigation would bring me where it wants to go through, not where I want to.

OM is less than half the size of OSMAnd but it's still 58 MB. I wonder why these mapping apps must be so large.

Having to dowload all the maps again is very bad. I wish there is a way to share them among apps but I think that Android makes it impossible, unless we want to use a folder on an external storage (SD card) or root the phone or whatever.

I'll keep using OSMAnd because of recording, markers and routes. However I might recommend OM to friends that only need a replacement for Google Maps.

Re: Organic Maps

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Post by CMOB »

bertil wrote: post #236
sanderjd wrote: post #214

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Sounds like a great system! US "zip codes" are pretty useless by comparison.

I’ve had to deal with postcodes in too many countries (logistic company), and the UK system is by far the best: dense, standard, somewhat intuitive, code-correcting, specific enough (several dozen households) that if you have a delivery, the recipient knows where the van is standing angrily. Documentation is excellent (relative to the UK government's digital service already very high standards), and you have APIs for…

I mean it's funny, but I don't know if I'd call it true. It was more that if you didn't know an address you could bet that the pub would help direct. (Probably wouldn't work anymore because all the rural pubs are closing)

Theres a difference between a system and embodied knowledge. I did a lot of work with systems which used Irish addresses early in my career.

"An Post", pre-eircode operated off a traditional hierarchical address system. Where there were "Counties" a real political boundary, "Post towns" which were usually big market towns but the location of a major sorting office, "Localities" (sometimes more than one) which were geographically undefined (we tried) at worst areas and some combination of street and buildings. The hierarchy was not strictly defined, it was a bit hungover.

My own address can be a combination of: , , +,

Most of these were optional. The "Pub" thing is a testament to how awesome the staff at An Post are at just getting a letter to a door. If you needed to send a letter to "Mary O'Shea" who you knew lived in Kerry and near "Paudie O'Sheas pub" you can bet that if you put "Mary O'Shea, Near Paudie O'Shea's Pub, Kerry" you can bet the letter would get to Kerry, someone in Kerry would know Paudie O'Sheas is in Ventry, Send it on to Dingle and he postie doing the rounds in Ventry would be like "Ah right, thats for Mary" and the only catch being: about 60% of the Female population of West Kerry are probably called some combination of "Mary" and "O'Shea".

I'd imagine logistics companies were dancing for joy with every house having a unique post-code.

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