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With identical results.
I think I'd prefer drowning to whatever horrors happen when your submersible runs out of life support at the bottom of the ocean.
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> If the actual risk are close to BASE jumping then you’ve failed. The myriad BASE jumping businesses would probably like a word. Risk tolerance varies.
There are things that are even more dangerous than BASE jumping that people do for fun, like cave diving, but people do them. I never got the attraction of people to cave diving. All you have to do is kick up a little dirt, and you're pretty much dead.
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I could take some guesses. It's cramped with a lot of people; wires invite tangles or damage if someone accidentally yanks on it. Especially if you want to operate the vehicle from both sides of the interior. Those controllers have millions of hours of playtesting by people that are sensitive to the slightest twitch. I'd trust them more than most automotive components. I'm more curious to know how they run the contro…
I would not actually trust them more than an automotive component, I think most accelerator pedals use Hall Effect sensors (usually two of them in the good designs) that are much less likely to wear out and cause spurious inputs or failure than the basic potentiometers on a game console, especially a very cheap one. Get an X-box controller at least, and have a couple spares wired in, in case the wireless one fails.
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#444I'm hesitant to speculate but just sharing -- an earlier version of this submersible was scrapped: "OceanGate will take advantage of lessons learned during the construction of its carbon-hulled Titan submersible, which was originally built for Titanic journeys. Rush said tests that were conducted at the Deep Ocean Test Facility in Annapolis, Md., revealed that the Titan’s hull “showed signs of cyclic fatigue.” As a r…
If your design breaks at less than the target then you really have to question the logic of continuing with that design. Making it slightly bigger won't fix the inherent issue with the materials. They're potentially opening themselves up to charges for killing these people. They knowingly or recklessly put them on a boat when it isn't capable of reaching the depth safely and now they are dead.
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Jesus. This sounds like this group is just taking billionaires' money while running a death trap. How the hell do you lose your sub for five hours? This should have stopped all trips until they fixed this problem through a combination of technical and procedural changes.
when you put it like that i'm suddenly pro death trap
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#446[1] https://twitter.com/FnpMarieOH/status/1670931677013524487
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I think I'd prefer drowning to whatever horrors happen when your submersible runs out of life support at the bottom of the ocean.
Surely if they slowly run out of air they won't be fully conscious when there is none.
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If your design breaks at less than the target then you really have to question the logic of continuing with that design. Making it slightly bigger won't fix the inherent issue with the materials. They're potentially opening themselves up to charges for killing these people. They knowingly or recklessly put them on a boat when it isn't capable of reaching the depth safely and now they are dead.
The CEO was in the vessel and probably would not have put his skin in the game if he didn't believe the vessel was safe.
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> If the actual risk are close to BASE jumping then you’ve failed. The myriad BASE jumping businesses would probably like a word. Risk tolerance varies.
There’s also business supporting people climbing Mount Everest, but their profits are severely limited by the number of people with means willing to take such risks.
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David Pogue, who traveled to the Titanic with OceanGate last summer, has said that he was on the control ship when a previous sub was "lost for about 5 hours". Source: https://twitter.com/Pogue/status/1670835763536183297
Is there some sort of underwater "GPS" tracker they can use to track the sub?