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Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by crazygringo » Fri, Jun 16, 2023, 5:27 PM UTC

randomdata wrote: post #436

crazygringo wrote: post #435

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OK, so you do post them for the benefit of replies from other people. Other people who are contributing back to you. Makes sense. I still don't understand why you delete them afterwards when that takes effort. That has a cost, and it negatively impacts others.

I post for the benefit of the silly outputs produced by their software. It is quite possible that those outputs originate from people, but there is nothing in the service to indicate that they do come from people. They could just as easily come from a cleverly designed random number generator (think GPT). There is no real way for me to really know for sure, and it really makes no difference so long as I am sufficient…

But a clean fridge provides benefits, because space is limited for you. And food rots.

Deleting your comments provides no benefit. Comments don't take up space of yours. And comments don't rot.

There must be a reason you're deleting comments, but it's doesn't make sense that it's because of a flawed fridge analogy.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by Eisenstein » Fri, Jun 16, 2023, 5:28 PM UTC

crazygringo wrote: post #355

randomdata wrote: post #338

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would delete comments that are past their prime like I would discard expired food in my fridge, yes. What are you going to gain from keeping something that is now rotten?

It's not about you, it's about everyone else who might benefit from reading your comment. What are you taking that benefit away from them? Why do you dislike other internet users like that? Also comments don't rot on the internet, nothing is ever "past its prime". Why do you think comments lose value to other people ? In fact, there's quite likely a long tail of future users who would benefit, who are even larger tha…

This person is either really playing up their Ayn Randian philosophy or they are deluded. I think you can be somewhat relieved knowing that the comments which are deleted are probably in line with the ones made by the person today -- worthless.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by jurassic » Fri, Jun 16, 2023, 5:29 PM UTC

boomboomsubban wrote: post #103

hubraumhugo wrote: post #7

There has been a constant stream of negative top HN posts about Reddit for a few weeks now, even if they often get manually pushed down from the front page. Was there ever a comparable shitstorm on HN against a big corp? Will this go down as the fastest suicide of a social media company?

Musk has gotten several. The elonjet Twitter shit got days of 500+ comment posts, and that's just the most recent example I can think of. Twitter didn't die, I doubt reddit will.

Twitter is very much dying. It just doesn't happen overnight.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by SAI_Peregrinus » Fri, Jun 16, 2023, 5:30 PM UTC

Murphy's Law applies, as always. Once it's on the internet, it's public forever, with one exception: if you need to find it again later, it's guaranteed to have link-rotted.

Trying to delete things is an exercise in futility.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by matheusmoreira » Fri, Jun 16, 2023, 5:33 PM UTC

unshavedyak wrote: post #320

Yea.. this is why you don't delete, because god knows it isn't actually deleted. You edit, and even then it's as crapshoot because it might not be gone. If they store versions of old comments then even editing wouldn't help (which tbh, would make sense in case there were ban-worthy content being hidden via edit) . Plus of course the rest of the internet still likely has your deleted/edited comment. So nothing public…

If they were storing previous versions of posts, one would think they'd allow others to view it instead of letting people append cringeworthy "EDIT: " trailers to their posts.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by Glench » Fri, Jun 16, 2023, 5:34 PM UTC

I made an extension that lets you delete Reddit posts and comments, but if Reddit is doing this maybe I can add a feature to periodically check if comments actually stayed deleted and if not delete them again.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/bulk-delete-reddit...

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by lom » Fri, Jun 16, 2023, 5:35 PM UTC

What if I wrote something that doxxed me and then deleted it. Is it being restored? This is unacceptable.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by randomdata » Fri, Jun 16, 2023, 5:35 PM UTC

crazygringo wrote: post #441

randomdata wrote: post #436

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I post for the benefit of the silly outputs produced by their software. It is quite possible that those outputs originate from people, but there is nothing in the service to indicate that they do come from people. They could just as easily come from a cleverly designed random number generator (think GPT). There is no real way for me to really know for sure, and it really makes no difference so long as I am sufficient…

But a clean fridge provides benefits, because space is limited for you. And food rots. Deleting your comments provides no benefit. Comments don't take up space of yours. And comments don't rot. There must be a reason you're deleting comments, but it's doesn't make sense that it's because of a flawed fridge analogy.

Comments that are left to rot can continue to produce unwelcome silliness long after it is no longer entertaining. There is value in removing it from the metaphorical fridge before you have to subject yourself to the foul stench that can emit out of a comment that is past its prime.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by flangola7 » Fri, Jun 16, 2023, 5:36 PM UTC

SAI_Peregrinus wrote: post #444

Murphy's Law applies, as always. Once it's on the internet, it's public forever, with one exception: if you need to find it again later, it's guaranteed to have link-rotted. Trying to delete things is an exercise in futility.

Individuals have a Right to be Forgotten. It seems this action is almost certainly in gross violation of GDPR. Reddit not only has EU users but employees and physical assets in Europe, are they trying to be made an example of?

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by matheusmoreira » Fri, Jun 16, 2023, 5:37 PM UTC

DropInIn wrote: post #373

Comments are protected by copyright.... By undeleting comments they are violating the copyright of the authors by engaging in unauthorized use Even if Reddit was the one that deleted it, the user needs to be informed if Reddit renews their use of the copyrighted work. Where the user deleted it, the violation is beyond obvious.

Good thing they included a "you essentially transfer ownership to us and allow us to do anything we want" clause in their little terms of service document that nobody actually reads.