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Post by choudharism »

bardfinn wrote: post #420
wpietri wrote: post #11

Great! There's a picket line I won't be crossing. Not just for those subs, of course, but for all of Reddit. The reason Reddit is valuable is not the few execs making these (IMHO terrible) decisions. It's the thousands of mods and the millions of people creating and organizing the content that I go there to read. Until those people are happy with things, I'm not going back.

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This is so many layers of unhinged rhetoric, picking out individual points to break them down and debate them will be fruitless. One thing though...

Moderator is most certainly a noun, and can be an adjective when placed in front of a "candidate". What are you even on, man.

https://www.britannica.com/dictionary/moderator

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Post by [deleted] »

OldManRyan wrote: post #314

There's a good number of people saying this strike is meaningless and reddit's API change will only affect a tiny % of users. I want to explain why I believe they are wrong. Engagement is a power curve. Most content is created by a small subset of users. I think it is a fair to say that if you use and especially pay for third party tools, whether that be a client or something like RES, you are more than likely a powe…

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Post by seydor »

themagician wrote: post #401
OldManRyan wrote: post #314

There's a good number of people saying this strike is meaningless and reddit's API change will only affect a tiny % of users. I want to explain why I believe they are wrong. Engagement is a power curve. Most content is created by a small subset of users. I think it is a fair to say that if you use and especially pay for third party tools, whether that be a client or something like RES, you are more than likely a powe…

Most of the content is also modded by a small subset of mods—literally dozens. You've got maybe a hundred mods who are "power mods" that control the vast majority of large subreddits, and these are the ones "protesting". They don't own the subreddits. They have no rights to them, but they like to pretend that they do. Their moderation has, in many ways, become oppressive to the userbase. You don't hear about it becau…

reddit should auto-retire mods after X months. We can do that in mainstream politics - not on reddit politics

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by foobarbecue »

TX81Z wrote: post #257
foobarbecue wrote: post #209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. I'm headed back to wikipedia, where I found community as a teenager. I think you can draw a direct line from wikimedia's nonprofit status to 22 years of greatness and steady improvement.

A friend there once told me the exec-level staff basically just does what the users want and they lack any real “authority” over the site. However, the drawback is they had a lot of great ideas for improvements but the power users throw a fit over any changes.

I think the pace of change has been just right, though. They added a graphical editor and modernifed the interface styling. Both of those changes happened about 5 years later than I would have expected, but you can tell they were carried out with extreme care not to piss off any users. We end up with an experience that pleases everyone.

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Post by constantly »

Small subreddits are largely not participating. Large subreddits I just browse from the All or Popular. I’m thinking if the large subreddits don’t inject things into the All subreddit than largely identical content will be injected and this will be a blip as small as the last protest that only saw the main subreddit names change and nothing more.

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Post by DowsingSpoon »

This whole fiasco leaves me shocked and surprised. I never considered that Reddit would sink themselves this way. It’s incredible. Until the AMA, I really had hope they’d back off and implement a sane API pricing model. That apps like Apollo would survive, diminished, and things would mostly continue on business-as-usual. But now, well, that’s it I guess. It’s been a long, slow decline, but I guess this is the end of the road.

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by OldManRyan »

mrtksn wrote: post #435
OldManRyan wrote: post #314

There's a good number of people saying this strike is meaningless and reddit's API change will only affect a tiny % of users. I want to explain why I believe they are wrong. Engagement is a power curve. Most content is created by a small subset of users. I think it is a fair to say that if you use and especially pay for third party tools, whether that be a client or something like RES, you are more than likely a powe…

So, what happens if reddit just kicks out the mods participating? It's not like the owners of the subs actually own anything, they just happen to do work in exchange of clout or money(from 3rd parties). There will be unlimited supply of volunteers waiting in line to acquire this privilege. If anyone actually manages to do some damage, they can just roll back the database or something. I've seen so many boycotts on th…

What happens if reddit crosses that line is completely up to community response. People could go on as usual and nothing happens or there could be an even more visceral backlash. History says business as usual but no one really knows what would happen.

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Post by hn_throwaway_99 »

breadsniffer01 wrote: post #319
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The endgame should simply be: 1. Reddit management gets their head out of their asses and negotiates a better change to API fees and structure. Throughout this whole ordeal everyone else (Apollo dev, mods, etc.) has made extremely reasonable points, but Reddit management seems to be gaslighting and arguing in bad faith at every turn. 2. If management doesn't change, Reddit should die. Why should all these mods donate…

Mods get free API usage. It’s only for 3rd party apps. It seems the Apollo dev has been throwing around some misinformation.

> It seems the Apollo dev has been throwing around some misinformation.

Please point out, specifically, where he has done this. Otherwise, STFU.

To be clear, it's not like I've been following every one of his posts, so it's quite possible he said things that aren't accurate. So far, though, I've seen nothing but vague accusations against Christian, and when he did call bullshit and brought the receipts to back it up, u/spez said he was "leaking a private call". Queen please, he libeled Christian and then when Christian brought evidence to prove him wrong he complained!! What an asshat.

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Post by davemp »

bardfinn wrote: post #420
wpietri wrote: post #11

Great! There's a picket line I won't be crossing. Not just for those subs, of course, but for all of Reddit. The reason Reddit is valuable is not the few execs making these (IMHO terrible) decisions. It's the thousands of mods and the millions of people creating and organizing the content that I go there to read. Until those people are happy with things, I'm not going back.

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> Not even if it had a better UI and better mod tools. It’s still theft, even if the aesthetics were clean.

Except reddit is mostly just a link aggregator and host of other stolen content.

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