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Re: Twitter was down

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Post by mlindner »

echelon wrote: post #373
shadowgovt wrote: post #24

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> Sending best of luck to the engineers. ... mostly around the hope they can jump ship before the Titanic pulls them under.

Why would you stay at Twitter? Even if you believe in the platform and the mission, this has to be one of the most stressful work environments in tech right now. The only cases I can think of for staying: - Unfortunate H-1Bs tied to the job. (We really need to make it easier for these folks to switch jobs and keep their visa!) - A feeling one needs the job and can't easily get work elsewhere. Perhaps living paycheck…

> - Unfortunate H-1Bs tied to the job. (We really need to make it easier for these folks to switch jobs and keep their visa!)

They can switch jobs. H-1B doesn't force you to stay at your job.

Re: Twitter was down

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Post by masklinn »

echelon wrote: post #373
shadowgovt wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Sending best of luck to the engineers. ... mostly around the hope they can jump ship before the Titanic pulls them under.

Why would you stay at Twitter? Even if you believe in the platform and the mission, this has to be one of the most stressful work environments in tech right now. The only cases I can think of for staying: - Unfortunate H-1Bs tied to the job. (We really need to make it easier for these folks to switch jobs and keep their visa!) - A feeling one needs the job and can't easily get work elsewhere. Perhaps living paycheck…

> The only cases I can think of for staying:

You forgot the bootlickers, I'm sure not all of them have been fired yet.

Re: Twitter was down

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Post by JohnBooty »

fallingknife wrote: post #418
jgust wrote: post #390

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> Unfortunate H-1Bs tied to the job. Or we could reduce the hoops & cycle time for legal immigration. The US has an opportunity right now to cement itself as the leader in technology for the next 2-3 decades and stave off the impending population growth crisis if we could find a way to enable people who want to live here to live here.

I'm not interested in government policy that allows companies to bring in cheap foreign labor to undercut my compensation. There are 330 million people in the us, so if companies need more engineers, they can pay more and train more. Also, there is no population growth crisis. A decreasing population means less stress on the environment and lower housing costs. Yes, there will be economic effects, but it's hardly cat…

    Yes, there will be economic effects, but it's hardly 
    catastrophic. Japan is managing just fine.
I'm absolutely unqualified to say if they're correct, but there are a lot of economists predicting disaster for countries like Russia, Japan, and (not far behind them) China who will face this kind of demographic shift. The US is in the midst of this kind of shift as Boomers age through the system, but it is said that it will be less severe (thanks to younger immigrants) and less permanent than some other countries are facing.

Of course, you can find a lot of "experts" saying anything. Economics is an area where I haven't got the chops or the hubris to tell shit from shinola.

Re: Twitter was down

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Post by sidfthec »

bfeynman wrote: post #436
sidfthec wrote: post #413

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The general issue of forcing recommendations and the general population not doing anything manually anymore is separate from the fact that as an individual you have lots of tools to curate your feeds on twitter/facebook/etc. It's also just really silly to have conversations like: "I can't stand seeing Elon on my feed!" "Have you blocked him?" "No"

You're missing the point, recommender algorithms are supposed to show people what they want. Even if what you said is true, the experience is absolutely doomed, because its a shitty UX

It's three clicks to block someone. That's bad UX?

(three dot menu -> block @whoever -> confirm).

Re: Twitter was down

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

runarberg wrote: post #136
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #119

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> Did you see the photo of the employee sleeping on the floor? I’ve done this. I had lots of fun—everyone, from the CEO down, was crunching—and became financially independent after it. It’s usually a sign of under-resourcing. But almost every start-up experiencing unexpected growth should be ready for it. It’s unusual at Twitter’s scale, but closed to mismanagement than abuse.

Please don’t do that. You deserve better as a worker. If a company is unable to function without infringing on the free time of their workers, that company should not exist.

> deserve better as a worker

I had equity in the outfit, I made my first million from it, and again, I had fun. If the CEI were at home partying, it would have been a different story. But we were all there. Kidding, coding and trying to keep something we were building together alive.

Re: Twitter was down

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Post by dcow »

Y'all are silly and insufferable. Twitter had a temporary outage that was quickly rectified and you act like it’s some massive catastrophe directly caused by his highness Elon. Like you’ve never pushed a breaking change before…

Re: Twitter was down

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Post by not_a_shill »

Zetice wrote: post #378
jurassicfoxy wrote: post #162

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Reddit crashes almost weekly it seems. Search is completely broken. The site's UI (new, not old.reddit) is truly atrocious.

I’m in what is likely the top 1% of Reddit users by volume (I have a problem, send help), and I have absolutely no clue what you’re talking about. Further, as a dev of 15 years, I’m not even sure what you mean by “crash” here. Are you saying that Reddit serves exclusively 500s or timeouts for a sustained period of time on a weekly basis? Or that it serves more than zero 500s at some point during a given week? Or that…

There is no way you haven't noticed reddit's servers getting overloaded. It happens fairly frequently and has for the last decade.

https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/2trmnk/why_is...

(See: all the people agreeing)

One of the triggers used to be that if a thread got too many comments it would bring down the website. So sports communities had to start splitting up their game threads during massive events so Reddit wouldn't break.

It definitely used to happen more often, but it was doing it for me yesterday coincidentally.

Re: Twitter was down

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Post by lamontcg »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #424
echelon wrote: post #373

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would you stay at Twitter? Even if you believe in the platform and the mission, this has to be one of the most stressful work environments in tech right now. The only cases I can think of for staying: - Unfortunate H-1Bs tied to the job. (We really need to make it easier for these folks to switch jobs and keep their visa!) - A feeling one needs the job and can't easily get work elsewhere. Perhaps living paycheck…

> Why would you stay at Twitter? Even if you believe in the platform and the mission, this has to be one of the most stressful work environments in tech right now. I worked for a different eccentric billionaire early in my career. It was stressful, demanding, and unpredictable as he tried to micromanage everything by himself in short bursts of 5 minutes before moving on to the next thing. The hook was an idea that it…

Probably the exact path Twitter is on.

But there'll be one or two people who get cozy with Elon and win the lottery and will write articles on how hard work always pays off (neglecting the other 99.9% of Twitter that gets fired when it all gets shipped to India).

Re: Twitter was down

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Post by roflyear »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #119
sigmar wrote: post #109

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Did you see the photo of the employee sleeping on the floor? I'd link it but twitter is down.

> Did you see the photo of the employee sleeping on the floor? I’ve done this. I had lots of fun—everyone, from the CEO down, was crunching—and became financially independent after it. It’s usually a sign of under-resourcing. But almost every start-up experiencing unexpected growth should be ready for it. It’s unusual at Twitter’s scale, but closed to mismanagement than abuse.

Oh my god man work is not a slumber party.
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