The Twitter Files Part 2: Twitter's Secret Blacklists

Post by rhaksw » Fri, Dec 09, 2022, 4:05 PM UTC

etchalon wrote: post #434

rhaksw wrote: post #370

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> "deliberately making someone’s content undiscoverable to everyone except the person who posted it, unbeknownst to the original poster." This happened to my tweet here [1]. It doesn't show up under the parent tweet [2]. It appears to be some sort of domain-based shadow filtering. It's probably because of the cheap .win domain I bought for $2. Why would Twitter censor that link? One could speculate it was because pat…

Shadow banning was not built to deal with bots. The practice was popularized in various communities long before bots were a serious problem. It was built to deal with jerks who, when moderated, would sign up under a new account, or would repost the same content over and over again, or who would invade discussions, distract them with vitriol or out of context nonsense – even if each post as original. The whole point o…

Post by propogandist » Fri, Dec 09, 2022, 4:10 PM UTC

afavour wrote: post #427

propogandist wrote: post #406

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Twitter employees were seen bragging about this long ago, as exposed by Project Veritas - https://twitter.com/Project_Veritas/status/16010371927882915... you are pushing fake news to distract from the core abuses, all to protect liberal interests

You’re running some tired schtick here. How is what I said “fake news”? If Musk opened up DM access to two non-employees that is a huge legal liability. You haven’t actually countered that point with anything, you’ve just waffled. You’ve also not explained why an audience like HN is incapable of discussing multiple issues in a discussion forum. Do you really think everyone here is so dumb? Let’s be real here: you don…

Post by yesco » Fri, Dec 09, 2022, 4:14 PM UTC

rhaksw wrote: post #228

Zuiii wrote: post #206

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> Reddit shows all removed comments to authors as if they're publicly visible [8] This is not true. There are cases where comments are silently removed without any public indicator; To the author, it appears as if the comment is posted normally. To other accounts however, there is no indication that the comment was ever posted.

There may be some wires crossed here. Reddit does show all removed comments to the people who wrote them as if they're not removed. I built Reveddit to reveal this. You can lookup a random user with this link [1]. There's a 50% chance they have a removed comment in their recent history, and chances are they weren't told that it was removed. > To other accounts however, there is no indication that the comment was ever…

Post by HDThoreaun » Fri, Dec 09, 2022, 4:35 PM UTC

causi wrote: post #255

quadrifoliate wrote: post #125

I have been responsible a bit of content moderation myself, and interacted with mods on various forums. It's possible that this is responsible for some of my views, summarized here. - The "secret" aspect of all this can be largely ignored. Twitter is under no obligation to tell its users exactly how their Tweets are moderated. I am sure most moderation tools are secret, including whatever Twitter (or for that matter,…

Twitter is under no obligation to tell its users exactly how their Tweets are moderated. Twitter has no legal obligation to do so. I think a lot of people would hesitate about engaging with a platform that actively has its thumb on the scale. I would really rather not have the thought in the back of my mind that invisible, unaccountable forces are the reason my views aren't popular, not that I'm an asshole with stupi…

Post by HDThoreaun » Fri, Dec 09, 2022, 4:39 PM UTC

mandmandam wrote: post #268

quadrifoliate wrote: post #253

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> The dissenting view, like with the lableak theory, was systematically blocked from ever reaching journalists eyes, and thus from reaching parents minds. I would hope that journalists conduct their research through better means than solely reading Tweets. That would be an exceptionally lazy standard, one which would merit a failing grade for a high school paper. That being said, "systematically blocked from ever rea…

> I would hope that journalists conduct their research through better means than solely reading Tweets. That's not a good reason to suppress scientists tweets. Also, many of the best journalists of the past decades have been loudly warning of being shadowbanned, supressed, deranked etc. > I don't think anyone would administer web forums if the government started telling them how they could and could not moderate post…