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Re: Never pay for online dating (2010)

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Met my wife on OKCupid, we have kids now and have been happily married. I thank God for OKC and it's impact on my life.

eHarmony told me I was unmatchable and match.c was worthless- I agree with this article reply rate was nil. OKC reply rate was awesome and people were much more chill to just IM for a bit and have real exchanges. I met my wife in under two months on the OKC platform.

Re: Never pay for online dating (2010)

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It's back now, so I think it shows the system working. Controversial posts like this one used to just die and disappear forever but now with "vouch" option some things deserving come back to life. Not perfect obviously, but on the right track IMHO.

When do you get vouch capability?

I think it's over 500 karma?

Re: Never pay for online dating (2010)

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The problem is worse than that... The app/site developers interests are directly opposing the users interests. The user (perhaps) wants to find a lifelong partner, and never use dating apps again. The site developer wants users to never find a lifelong partner, and to spend months/years returning to the app to find new candidates. In my experience, the developer usually wins - some users on dating sites have been the…

This isn't really the case though. If an app isn't getting you decent dates every so often, you'll move to an app that does. And it's pretty clear within a couple of months if an app is working for you or not. And then once you're in a relationship, the app has zero control over whether it succeeds or not! So no, dating apps aren't working against your romantic interests, simply because a) there's too much competitio…

But there is no competition. A single company controls all the main apps.

Re: Never pay for online dating (2010)

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OkCupid was bought by Match Group (who run almost all online dating sites, including Match, eHarmony, and Tinder) in 2011 and took down this post not long after. EDIT: the purchase was Feb 2011 [1] and the post was removed sometime between Jan 2011 [2] and Mar 2011 [3]. The rest of the blog was still up at the time [4]. [1] https://www.npr.org/2011/02/03/133456140/The-Last-Word-In-Bu... [2] https://web.archive.org/we…

Match has turned all of its apps into tinder. That is, gambling-like "one more swipe" photo centric dating apps, where the artificial restriction of choice keeps every person starved. Tinder is casual hookups, okcupid is leftist tinder for relationships, Hinge is politically moderate tinder for traditionalists, and so on. Each is a different marketing segment, but the same basic idea that gets men to pay to meet wome…

> okcupid is leftist tinder for relationships

Your experience may have location bias? I.e. where did you use OKC?

I used it in Europe (2010--2011, mostly Germany and Italy) and Asia (2011-2013, Hong Kong) and Europe again (2014--now mostly Berlin & Hamburg) and my experiences were/are very different.

People are from the full political spectrum. Very right people are the outlier though, admittedly.

In Berlin there is a leftist bias but this is pretty newish (wasn't like this at all, when I started using OKC again in Europe in 2014).

Edit: spelling

Re: Never pay for online dating (2010)

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You, as a user of a dating app, are forever in a Nash Equilibrium with the dating app. When you find the love of your life, you delete the app forever. Therefore, everything the app does to help you find that person works directly against their own goals (user growth, “engagement”. subscriptions).

McDonalds works against its interests by making its customers less hungry too.

I might be wrong, but people don't generally consume their date :o)

Re: Never pay for online dating (2010)

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Dating apps do not work because you are not actually present. You have the attention of hundreds of people at the same time, so unless you decide to meet up right away, the other party immediately loses interest. Most of the people are just looking for sex or something less serious, and the apps heavily paywall males. They are cancer. Meeting through friends is probably the safest, as that at least gives you some saf…

Another big reason why dating apps suck, is that people don't go on dates. People meet their partners in groups of friends of friends, at parties. Before dating apps, nobody would ask a stranger out for a date, and nobody wants to do that now either, so the apps is enabling something that people don't actually want. It should be focused on getting together groups of friends of friends for parties instead.

>>>Before dating apps, nobody would ask a stranger out for a date, and nobody wants to do that now either, so the apps is enabling something that people don't actually want.

Huh? Before dating apps, you would do things like go to the mall, and look for cute girls in the food court to start a conversation with. We were absolutely approaching strangers to ask out. Did you not date in the late 90s (or even earlier)?

Re: Never pay for online dating (2010)

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A profile picture with no text implies confidence and knowing how attractive you are (other than being a bot of course)

>After we got rid of the two scales, and replaced it with just one, we ran a direct experiment to confirm our hunch — that people just look at the picture. We took a small sample of users and half the time we showed them, we hid their profile text. That generated two independent sets of scores for each profile, one score for “the picture and the text together” and one for “the picture alone.” Here’s how they compare.…

That's either pretty hilarious or pretty depressing

Re: Never pay for online dating (2010)

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So there's still a void for a dating service to be filled?

Im tempted to make a service where you "deposit" some fee to subscribe, I then return part of the deposit to you on a monthly basis UNTIL you find a match on the site. If/once you find a match, I keep the rest. That should align goals for both the company and the partner seeker. EDIT: I'll be getting interest from the remainder your payment every month, as part of my profit scheme.

And if someone finds a match but doesn't inform the site you lose out, no? I expect a lot of people to be dishonest if it means getting a bunch of money back.

Re: Never pay for online dating (2010)

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Spoke to the OKC co-founder when he was working out of a co-working location making fun side project, he said that even they thought this was a bit too pretentious and very correlation vs causality issues.

I read that as "carnality issues".

This is what motivates people to seek out other people.

Re: Never pay for online dating (2010)

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I'm all for a lot of state-sponsored things, but a government run dating site sounds like one of the most dystopian ideas I can imagine. Blaming online dating sites for mental health problems and mass shooting is a new one. I don't discount the feeling of despair that can occur on dating sites for men. However, the experience of a being woman on a dating app is absolutely harrowing, even if you have incredibly low st…

Current dating apps are designed to make money for their creators. A dating app made by the government could be made with completely different incentives in mind. To put it differently, I'm reading your argument as equivalent to saying that the existence of the USPS (which will deliver to remote rural areas, despite the fact that doing so isn't profitable) is more dystopian than the existence of UPS and FedEx (which…

The functions of the USPS and a dating site differ substantially. If we were talking about an email or file transfer service then we could at least compare the paradigm.
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