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What novelty features did Asus do? Apple did touchbar, the thinnest keyboard on earth, a super underpowered 12 inch MacBook, a screen with an iphone build in. And that is only the last few years.

In Asia I saw Asus laptops with "tribal tattoos" decoration on the shell. That sort of "novelty".

I mean there also (or used to be) a golden iphone.

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God help your soul if you need to deal with an ASUS hardware RMA. They are easily the worst PC hardware manufacturer of all, and they sell clearly damaged and broken parts as "refurb." They are terrible.

Late last year going into early this year I had to deal with ASUS RMA with my ROG Flow X13 and the dock. The dock started failing. They wanted both the laptop and the dock sent in, so I sent both in. It took a while, but they got it taken care of. The only problem I ran into is apparently FedEx treated the return as a soccer ball. The sturdy packaging was very damaged, and I'm surprised the damage to the laptop and d…

I bought about 16 refurbished asus gpus last year and 9 were DOA. Some had extreme damage but no packaging damage, making me think they were sent damaged.

Requiring a laptop for a dock issue is insane. That is not good service.

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Haha yea maybe my glasses are a little tinted, but I think you're conflating two different points. Apple has released flawed products in the past, but they rarely (never?) include emerging tech that isn't polished enough for mainstream consumption. I say this as a former Android user who loved touting that "Android had that feature first", but it's hard to deny that features like mobile payments have just been execut…

The Galaxy Z Flip 3 has been a massive hit, and the much more expensive Fold 3 has likewise seen unexpectedly high sales: https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/samsung-sold-more-foldables...

How do you define "massive hit"? That article cited an estimate of 9M foldable smartphones being sold in 2021 - compared to 1.4B total smartphone sales last year (~1.12B just looking at Android).

That's less than 1%, no?

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Cool design, but absolutely never buying an Asus product again. Every single product I've bought from them (router, motherboard, monitor, etc) has broken, and their support system is an absolute nightmare.

> Every single product I've bought from them (router, motherboard, monitor, etc) has broken

Has broken in what time frame? Because if it breaks within the first year or so, I'd understand it, but tech breaking/malfunctioning after the standard warranty time expires is pretty common in my experience. I've only ever bought one laptop from Asus but it served me well enough for 4 years, until the battery went haywire and ballooned to thrice its size.

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The M1 and M2 (and the benefits from them, like ridiculous battery life, low heat (enough so that you can run it totally fanless unless you're outside in the direct sun or something), and more importantly desktop-comparable speed for even heavy tasks like photo/video editing are really, really good. Honestly unless you're required to run windows, it makes a macbook kind of a no brainer right now, especially if you ha…

> importantly desktop-comparable speed for even heavy tasks like photo/video editing are really, really good Because it has dedicated hardware to make photo & video editing good. Which is great, if that's your jam. It's dead silicon if it isn't, though. M1/M2 strike a great balance for performance & battery life, absolutely. But it's very narrow in what it can achieve desktop-comparable speeds on when it comes to hea…

>But it's very narrow in what it can achieve desktop-comparable speeds on when it comes to heavy workloads

Very generally, Java is one of those things. CPU performance is really, really good for non-rosetta workloads.

I agree though that despite Apple's wild claims the general GPU performance isn't that good - not that it's bad for very quiet laptop.

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>There were most-expensive-on-the-market-yet-worst-quality fraying cables that my 1$ usb cables Apple is incredibly inconsistent. The iphone cable quality was complete dogshit: https://i.imgur.com/t7Oajul.jpeg On the other hand, the new macbook pro magsafe cable is probably the best quality cable I've ever owned.

I never understood WTF people were talking about with the cables. I'd go 5+ years with various Apple cables without a single sign of fraying. Not even careful with them, would just wad them up in bags when moving around, that kind of thing. ... then my kids got older, and my wife move to Apple and started borrowing my cables. They all kill Apple cables in like 6 months flat. It's incredible. [EDIT] As for how they do…

This cable can do all of those things easily without breaking: https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MLYV3AM/A/usb-c-to-magsaf...

It's really good.

The old cables were made of weird extremely low quality rubber? I don't think I've seen worse quality of rubber on any other cable.

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In early childhood, children's brains will rapidly adapt to their environment ( https://academic.oup.com/pch/article/11/9/571/2648303?login=... ), for example Aboriginal Australian children develop strong spatial cognition to survive in an environment with few landmarks ( https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/001002... ). It'll be interesting to see what happens when the generation of children whose b…

You can make the same arguments in the past about kids watching TV and then kids using a PC. In 10 years, parents will be complaining about AR/VR

> You can make the same arguments in the past about kids watching TV and then kids using a PC.

Yes. This is true, and they're still valid complaints. I grew up (currently in my 20s) without a TV or PC with a GUI.

> In 10 years, parents will be complaining about AR/VR

Same potential for completely ruining kids, if not worse.

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I think the design is brilliant. Nice 4:3 ratio. This essentially doubles as a full screen you can put anywhere with a keyboard always at hand. That's how I use my laptop 99.9% of the time. The microsoft book is already better than a regular clamshell in my eyes for versatility, but If you ignore the price for a moment (which brings the book to ridicolous costs), IMHO this design beats a clamshell design in versatili…

I have a X1 Fold Tablet, and it's the best device I've ever owned I like it so much that I spent time to make it work great under Windows 11: check https://csdvrx.github.io/

Do you have any thoughts with the ASUS vs. what you have?

Dang that's an info heavy page that you wrote haha.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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It, uhm, works with a keyboard. While touch-based UX is nearly flawless, there are some weird delays, e.g. when switching keyboard layout (you may not know of this problem if your language uses Latin script) -- very annoying since it tends to swallow characters.

Uhm, I have the iPad Pro 12" and that "magic" Apple keyboard cover (that crazy expensive one) and use Japanese, English, German as my input languages, switching often. Zero lag whatsoever.

Good, maybe it was related to the Logitech keyboard. How do you switch layouts, cmd+space? It opened a small window that blocked all input until it auto-closed half a second later.
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