FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores

Post by judge2020 » Tue, Jul 19, 2022, 1:08 PM UTC

627467 wrote: post #368

jpk wrote: post #33

Lots of folks here arguing that the focus on TikTok is unfair, given the data collection practices of domestic corps like Facebook. From a privacy point of view, this argument is well-founded, but I think it's tangential to the argument TFA is making, which is: this data collection done by a foreign government and exploited for surveillance or espionage is a national security risk. I get it. We want corps to stop hoo…

> this data collection done by a foreign government and exploited for surveillance or espionage is a national security risk. How were Snowden revelations of USG Bigtech relationship materially different from what's happening here? Maybe it was less transparent? Any "woke" person can see the cognitive dissonance here. It's all fine that you use the geopolitical rivalry argument but not if you try to paint one side of…

Post by [deleted] » Tue, Jul 19, 2022, 1:11 PM UTC

jmyeet wrote: post #359

As much as the US government does questionable and bad things (and it does), the CCP is worse. The US still has at least the semblance of the rule of law. There is still some separation between corporations and the government. Corporations in China are extensions of the state and tools of foreign policy in a way they just aren't in the West. The US government can also be replaced. That's why China and the US just are…

Post by entirelylin » Tue, Jul 19, 2022, 1:13 PM UTC

kibwen wrote: post #408

snehk wrote: post #10

I don't have a horse in this race at all, but the annoying part is that the same rules don't get applied across the board. Everything they're accusing TikTok of - from data harvesting to the government having access to said data - is true for western companies as well and that should be the problem. Not the fact that the data is now in the hands of the Chinese but that the data is being collected at all provided to t…

Hear hear. We don't need selective takedowns of foreign intelligence assets for the sake of scoring political brownie points, we need strong privacy laws that apply to every company, including domestic ones. Unfortunately, half of the users on this forum don't want to hear this because their paycheck depends on being complicit in the gross violation of individual privacy.

Post by elashri » Tue, Jul 19, 2022, 1:15 PM UTC

layer8 wrote: post #337

lazyeye wrote: post #301

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Ive never understood why the concept of reciprocity is so obvious yet never discussed. China blocks your apps, you block theirs. I guess you'd have to be an idiot like Trump to even suggest such a thing.

“The old law of an eye for an eye leaves everyone blind.”

Post by [deleted] » Tue, Jul 19, 2022, 1:20 PM UTC

tuxie_ wrote: post #399

Msw242 wrote: post #378

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The world map has been mostly frozen the last few decades precisely because USA is the global hegemon and world police. Regional powers (which is what we would devolve to) are demonstrating exactly what the world would look like without America running the show: conquest and genocide in Ukraine, saber rattling in the south china sea, genocide of the Kurds. We don't have an interest in solving for all the world's ills…

It's sad but not surprising that you think that the US did not promote, finance, or execute dictatorships and all kinds of destabilizing tactics against democratically elected governments for the sole reason of not agreeing with their policies. They even sent agents to my country to teach the military how to torture civilians. The only difference is that they were careful to not do it directly, or do it in secret. Ex…