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Google says US employees can relocate to states with abortion rights

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Re: Google says US employees can relocate to states with abortion rights

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Ok, well if he's only considering "one day before birth" scenarios he's gone reductio ad absurdum on the whole issue and he's also fighting a roughly nonexistent boogeyman. His own personal strawman, if you will.

It’s just a way to show that a fetus is still something. With pure materialist mindset we would say that it’s progressively closer to being a human as we get close to birth. I find it strange that we get from zero value before birth to full human live once born and try to disregard the baby before birth. I think we have to do a conscience examination, are we blind to something because it’s more convenient for us?

> I find it strange that we get from zero value before birth to full human live once born and try to disregard the baby before birth.

Do we though? Abortions statistics would show that progressively fewer abortions are performed the later the pregnancy, with 99% occurring before 21 weeks.

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Do you also think guys with flags and shit on their big trucks are virtue signalling?

I don’t know many people with shit on their trucks, unless it’s from the birds before going through the car wash.

Cute.

Re: Google says US employees can relocate to states with abortion rights

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Literally talking to you and trying to get you convinced that things are at stake is doing something. I'm also active in my local community trying to change things. Why can't I do both? It's not one or the other. That's another problem y'all folks have beyond goalposts, you think we can't both talk and do. We have to raise awareness, and do. Especially with how stacked the legislative is in our country to favor minor…

I'm not a person you need to convince. I'm already on your side that abortion should be safe and legal. The way to do that is to enact laws that guarantee the right to abortion. People on the right are not a monolith. There may be a handful of lunatics who are raving about IVF or contraception, but that is not most of them. The pro-life people I've talked to online and in real life think abortion is just about irresp…

> There may be a handful of lunatics who are raving about IVF or contraception

Doesn’t matter how many there are as long as 5 of them remain on the Supreme Court.

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It's not about making it illegal, it's that IVF typically results in more fertilized embryos than are kept. So like you said, the pro-life folks would force every single one to be kept.

Technically you can donate the unused embryos, though I don’t know how that would work legally. I suspect most states will end up having pretty level headed laws once this all shakes out in 5 years or so with a few outliers on both sides.

Question is: how many women die preventable deaths in the meantime? Will she be your mom? Your girlfriend? Your sister? You?

Re: Google says US employees can relocate to states with abortion rights

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This is the n'th tech company today that's made an announcement similar to this. Even Disney is going to transport workers to abortion-legal states as needed as "health benefit". It's certainly a perk and good on Google for this one, but we're headed to a dark place if your best shot at human rights is to retain employment by a big tech company.

I guess this could be one way Amazon could help solve its staffing woes. A perk of working at their warehouses is a free abortion.

Given the recent news about them running out of people to hire... I wouldn't be so sure.

The cynical view is it might be better for them to keep up the supply of low skilled labor...

Re: Google says US employees can relocate to states with abortion rights

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I moved to Fort Worth a long time ago for work, we had a 1 year old. I didn't really like the idea of him going to school with kids... lets say, of the "Texas mentality", but was really just using the job as a stepping stone to get out of my home state and hoped to be in CA before he'd reach school age. The first week there we met a family that had also just moved from a northern state and ended up hanging out with t…

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"Culture clash" is "I think that thing you believe is silly". People looking to force their views on others by law (or other violent means) vs people not wanting to have other's views forced on them by law is fascism vs freedom.

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I can empathize. As an early teen, my family moved from a major US city to the rural midwest which is filled with "blue collar born and bred Americans." I was immediately bombarded with a strict Christian and puritan-like culture in high school. I grew up in a Catholic household but I had never experienced the intensity of a group of kids following their parents upbringing to a tee. They hated anyone who had longer h…

> Over 20 years later and I can't shake the uneasy feeling that seemingly well-intentioned people seek to eradicate uniqueness in humanity. It's because there's a self-perpetuating safety in it. This is one of the functions of religion: it benefits its in-group by giving them rules about the "right" way to behave, and those rules coincidentally favor conservative behaviors that have the side effect of stamping out in…

> Long hair on a boy? Well that sure is different, and as everyone knows, different is bad.

This feels really weird when you think about the general western perception of jesus. In damn near any picture he's got a flow going.

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But you care about laws against abortions?

Yes because it directly affects both my wife and my daughter. If either one chose to get an abortion I'd be very sad, but that's not a good reason to make something illegal.

Ok, so if they get killed then it’s fine, you don’t care?

But if they want an abortion and can’t get one it’s a problem?

I don’t follow your train of thought

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