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I accidentally loaned all my money to the US government

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Re: I accidentally loaned all my money to the US government

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> Canada is in America too Even Brazil is in America. This is why I dislike using the term "American" when referring to US citizens, it's hopelessly ambiguous: are you talking about the country or the continent?

Among native English speakers, “American” almost always means someone from the United States. That’s partly because, unlike every other country, the US doesn’t have a convenient adjective for its residents. However, after a few years in Central America I’ve broken myself of this usage. Spanish has an adjective for US people (aside from gringo, etc.) that I can use in Spanish, and when speaking English I find some oth…

The problem is that the adjective “United Statian” is a mouthful; Yankee (my dad’s favorite) unfair; gringo refers (used to?) to Italians in Argentina.

United States doesn't have an adjective. Colombian would be nice, but its also taken and now problematic.

Re: I accidentally loaned all my money to the US government

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The idea that the US will de jure default on its obligations is risible. De facto its happened at least once before when Nixon closed the gold window overnight.

In 1933 Congress unilaterally devalued the dollar by nearly seventy percent, rewrote the gold clauses in private contracts, largely forbid the private possession of gold, and managed to get away with it. The Supreme Court conveniently decided to ignore the Constitution on that occasion.

Well, I would be one to argue that the US de facto defaults all the time.

But Nixon’s gold window was the most egregious.

Re: I accidentally loaned all my money to the US government

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OP wrote (admittedly wordy), “metrics like debt to GDP indicate they're currently fighting a bigger war than WWII,” Meaning that the GDP trends as if we’re in a WW3 situation and loosing, not that we are. I.E the GDP/debt metric appears to be as bad as if we were loosing a war when in fact we’re not even fighting one. Ironically I disagree with both points. Yes the economy is bad, yes it will get worse but: - I don't…

Weaker fundamentals? Do you really think the relationships with third world countries are more strained than were during active colonization? Russia and China did a lot of work with their infrastructure programs but I am still not sure they have the upper hand.

Our industrial base is gutted and we don't have enough resources. Not enough to sustain our extravagant lifestyles.

Europe has to find a way to buy Rubles quickly or choose between freezing or damaging capital goods (there are industries that cant be shut down because they get damaged).

There’s not enough American LNG to rescue Europe, and if there were there arent enough ports to import it. Anyway, nascent American populism will make sure Americans get (cheap) gas first.

Re: I accidentally loaned all my money to the US government

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Among native English speakers, “American” almost always means someone from the United States. That’s partly because, unlike every other country, the US doesn’t have a convenient adjective for its residents. However, after a few years in Central America I’ve broken myself of this usage. Spanish has an adjective for US people (aside from gringo, etc.) that I can use in Spanish, and when speaking English I find some oth…

The problem is that the adjective “United Statian” is a mouthful; Yankee (my dad’s favorite) unfair; gringo refers (used to?) to Italians in Argentina. United States doesn't have an adjective. Colombian would be nice, but its also taken and now problematic.

>The problem is that the adjective “United Statian” is a mouthful

Even that can be confusing. United states could also refer to Mexico, which has the actual name "United Mexican States". Someone from Mexico can rightly call themselves from united states.

Re: I accidentally loaned all my money to the US government

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Of course the only place you can get 8% return on savings is at treasury and he already maxed that out. He’s lucky to get 1% return on a high yield savings so he lost 1/12 = .08%/month so if it takes two months for a refund he lost $16.66 in interest from where he has it parked. My bank’s high yield interest only returns .05% so if I had acted stupidly and made the same mistake I would have missed out on 83 cents for…

> He’s lucky to get 1% return on a high yield savings To match inflation, all one has to do is to buy nonperishable components of the CPI: fuel, real estate (through a REIT), food, commodities, and so on. If banking can't keep up with that, it speaks volumes about the competence of the financial system.

The problem with those things is that they fluctuate based on other factors than inflation. So if you want to hedge against inflation without risk, you don’t want to buy fuel and stuff.

Savings accounts haven’t kept up with inflation for as long as I remember. So anyone with cash has plugged it into stuff other than mma. I think that’s why these Ibonds are so popular now.

Re: I accidentally loaned all my money to the US government

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In 1933 Congress unilaterally devalued the dollar by nearly seventy percent, rewrote the gold clauses in private contracts, largely forbid the private possession of gold, and managed to get away with it. The Supreme Court conveniently decided to ignore the Constitution on that occasion.

Well, I would be one to argue that the US de facto defaults all the time. But Nixon’s gold window was the most egregious.

On the flipside, at least it ultimately resulted in laying the background that politically enabled private ownership of gold again. I'd rather be able to trade away my pieces of paper for gold than play a rigged game where I buy pieces of paper that 'represent' gold I can't own.

Re: I accidentally loaned all my money to the US government

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Any website worth anything would have done a real time check on the users balance and only allow the leftover amount to be used to buy the bonds I.e if I already have $2K worth of bonds then I should be allowed only another $8K worth of bonds. How difficult is it to build this simple business logic into the user experience? Not a lot specially with the resources at their disposal. But unfortunately I can guarantee th…

> check on the users balance and only allow the leftover amount to be used to buy the bonds I.e if I already have $2K worth of bonds then I should be allowed only another $8K worth of bonds. Your pseudocode already failed the unit tests. The limit is 10k per year, and you can hold I bonds for 30 years. Someone can have 300k of I bonds in their account balance. (Not that it would be hard to do it correctly.)

Touché :p

Re: I accidentally loaned all my money to the US government

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Faux security measure. You could blame the PMs or the customers. Why browsers enable it, I'm not sure.

Most likely because the amount of furor and kerfuffle that would be created when "the security system broke" would basically be equal quantities of facepalm and hustle that would phase between canceling each other out and producing undirected chaos. Like, this brand of "security" is being persisted with, in 2022, when virtually nothing else uses this sort of approach, and the writing's been on the wall for so long yo…

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Re: I accidentally loaned all my money to the US government

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Government Can Do Nothing Right has been the propaganda line of the right-wing of the American business community since the end of WWII. A lot of the business community resented the social democratic reforms of that time (those ’50s white picket fence times) and so they sought to first argue that government was useless, and then later prove it through their government-sucks politicians.

Compare OP's story to, say, creating a Facebook account. Why is the government's solution so much crappier? Why can a private company streamline a web experience much better?

Many Government orgs are underfunded and pay worse than private sector. FB engineers make bank compared to being a federal employee. It’s not surprising creating Fb accounts are easy. Why do we as a society value accounts on an advertisement marketplace more than essential services?

Re: I accidentally loaned all my money to the US government

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If you haven’t done something stupid like this a few times in your life, you ain’t living. This is a perfect HN post because it combines terrible technology and “let’s see how it breaks.” Thanks OP, a delightful Sunday read.

AND, crapulifically one day north of the deadline for those who didn't know about I-bonds.

Well played, sir. Well played.

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