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Re: Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources

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“Everything that isn’t illegal is allowed” sounds great until you see what that actually means on the internet. Anyone who has ever worked in content moderation / trust & safety knows what kind of unrelenting deluge of obnoxious / disturbing / spam-filled / miserable race to the bottom of the lizard brain stuff that is constantly being pushed back on any moderately popular social media site. It seems so easy from a d…

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Re: Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources

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People act like this is some spiteful thing he's doing in order to just post edgy memes or have a 'private' social media for himself. Twitter, despite being a toxic place the majority of people avoid, brought in over 5 billion dollars last year. If elon removes bots, welcomes non-extremists back on, gets comedians and entertaining accounts back on board and lets people say what they want instead a bot army of shills…

> lets people say what they want instead a bot army of shills repeating verbatim over and over and over

I think what people want is to act like a bot army of shills repeating verbatim over and over. I doubt that bots are to blame when it comes to harassment campaigns in rather niche fandoms. A frightening number of people I respond to are somehow convinced that toxic echo chambers are a good thing.

Re: Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources

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The ONLY way to solve the toxic nature of Twitter is to enforce a)a real name policy, and b)fully verified[1] identities for all users/bots (opt-in, where others by default filter out non-verified accounts in their feeds) Bots can continue to exist, but must be identifiable as such and connected to a verified real user. Not only will this clean up twitter dramatically, it will also push off those who wish to hide beh…

Nope. There is another way!

Remove the "feature" that recommends something to you. Or alternatively, allow users to turn it off.

Problem solved.

Someone routinely posts and shares something you don't like? Unfollow them.

Someone posts something that is illegal? File a report with the authorities.

This, "you must tie all your thoughts to your government issued identity" only solves one problem: allowing the thought police to come after you after losing their hold at Twitter.

Re: Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources

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Am I the only person here that finds Twitter a nice place? I'm careful about who I follow, most of whom are tech people or educators. My feed is a really nice place to go, and I can't remember the last time I read or saw anything that triggered me in the slightest. I'm seeing loads of comments about how toxic Twitter is, but isn't that on you? Don't follow or engage and the algorithm will skip you over.

I have a hot take on this topic: Your feed says more about you than Twitter in general. If you see toxic Tweets, that's because you follow people who post toxic Tweets or engage with toxic Tweets. Don't follow these people.

Here is a guideline for a good Twitter experience:

1. Everyone who is negative, irrational, too political and so on gets unfollowed.

2. Everyone who is interesting gets followed.

3. Unfollow is more important than follow, because negative Tweets are more attention grapping.

The most difficult part about Twitter is to start out and curate your feed from nothing. But once you have that, it's one of the best social media tools out there.

Re: Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources

#446

People act like this is some spiteful thing he's doing in order to just post edgy memes or have a 'private' social media for himself. Twitter, despite being a toxic place the majority of people avoid, brought in over 5 billion dollars last year. If elon removes bots, welcomes non-extremists back on, gets comedians and entertaining accounts back on board and lets people say what they want instead a bot army of shills…

I've seen people who are angry about Musks actions say that they're going to be the most toxic, anger-inducing, irrational users they can be to test his limits of speech. Some people just want to watch the world burn because they can't get their way.

Re: Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources

#447

People act like this is some spiteful thing he's doing in order to just post edgy memes or have a 'private' social media for himself. Twitter, despite being a toxic place the majority of people avoid, brought in over 5 billion dollars last year. If elon removes bots, welcomes non-extremists back on, gets comedians and entertaining accounts back on board and lets people say what they want instead a bot army of shills…

> seeing value in advertising on twitter again

Isn't "remove ads" on his takeover agenda?

Re: Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources

#448

Am I the only person here that finds Twitter a nice place? I'm careful about who I follow, most of whom are tech people or educators. My feed is a really nice place to go, and I can't remember the last time I read or saw anything that triggered me in the slightest. I'm seeing loads of comments about how toxic Twitter is, but isn't that on you? Don't follow or engage and the algorithm will skip you over.

It might be on me, but they're trying to build a public forum, not a niche community. If you want to attract the number of people that Twitter wants to attract, it can't be built on power users. Hell I'm a 'power user' and I don't want to be spending my time to figure out how to curate a community for my benefit, I'll just go to reddit or here for that.

Re: Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources

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What most troubles me about this whole ordeal: The lack of upper limits on wealth accumulation by an individual means that a single person can eventually directly control enough funds to simply decide one day to buy one of the world's largest communication channels. No one here seems to have a problem with this. For as much as the tech community generally despises generational-wealth families like the Waltons, or for…

I hear what you're saying, but on the other hand, it's because of people like Elon Musk, the Saudi Royalty, and dozens of other wealthy individuals and funds that many of us even have high paying jobs at a number of high profile tech companies.

Re: Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources

#450

People act like this is some spiteful thing he's doing in order to just post edgy memes or have a 'private' social media for himself. Twitter, despite being a toxic place the majority of people avoid, brought in over 5 billion dollars last year. If elon removes bots, welcomes non-extremists back on, gets comedians and entertaining accounts back on board and lets people say what they want instead a bot army of shills…

I don't totally disagree with you but that is a pretty purely monetary investment point of view. From Musk's position it seems unlikely he's viewing it as an investment; there are plenty of better investments in the world and he also has plenty of room to grow in his own companies already. It seems much more likely he has things in mind he wants to do about Twitter with regards to it being the de facto town square.
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