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Yes, which is exactly why you should be fighting against those two as well. I'm doing my bit by not putting much valuable data besides YouTube playlists into my very ancient Google account, and using Linux on the desktop.
For (sane) business e-mail you basically have 3 choices: MS, Google or Zoho. I recently commented on this topic here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30266721
Using Windows with a Microsoft account introduces all sorts of issues that only power users tend to come across, and power users are who Windows Pro is targeted for. For example, RDP'ing to a Windows Pro computer with a Microsoft account becomes a lot more difficult. Another example is that Windows still needs a local username and password, even if you've logged in with a Microsoft account, and this can get out of sy…
Nope, Windows Pro is targeted to businesses.
I agree that this will be a frustration point some power users don't need and while make some relegate Windows to a VM. Many power users have already done this and I don't see them changing direction based on this news.
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For (sane) business e-mail you basically have 3 choices: MS, Google or Zoho. I recently commented on this topic here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30266721
I've been using Zoho for personal email with no issues for almost a decade, IIRC. But depending on what kind of business you're running, there are certainly more options than just those three.
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For (sane) business e-mail you basically have 3 choices: MS, Google or Zoho. I recently commented on this topic here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30266721
Which option does Fastmail fail on?
Consider the following scenario: Alice and Bob jointly manage a mailbox sales@acme.co. An email from a customer arrives and Alice replies to it.
With a real shared mailbox, Bob should be able to see the e-mail Alice sent, as they both have the same view on the shared mailbox. IIUC, with a simple distribution list this is not the case (the sent e-mail just resides in Alice's personal mailbox).
Guys, Microsoft doesn't give two shits about home users. Their bread and butter is businesses. And M365 is amazing for business. If you think M$ suxors, you're not the target demographic. I'd much rather manage 200 users with M365 than some fucked up combo of slack, Google, Dropbox, and libreoffice.
I don't need to be managed, thanks. Give me credentials and a live CD.
Guys, Microsoft doesn't give two shits about home users. Their bread and butter is businesses. And M365 is amazing for business. If you think M$ suxors, you're not the target demographic. I'd much rather manage 200 users with M365 than some fucked up combo of slack, Google, Dropbox, and libreoffice.
> I'd much rather manage 200 users with M365 than some fucked up combo of slack, Google, Dropbox, and libreoffice. Yeah, you’d do that until the development team at your organisation would insist on working on macOS and linux, not Windows. Then you’d have a field day, because we all know how well M$ tools work on/with non-Windows machines.
Guys, Microsoft doesn't give two shits about home users. Their bread and butter is businesses. And M365 is amazing for business. If you think M$ suxors, you're not the target demographic. I'd much rather manage 200 users with M365 than some fucked up combo of slack, Google, Dropbox, and libreoffice.
There's your error - why use Slack, Google, Dropbox? Why not host a Rocketchat, Jitsi, Syncthing/sftp share and manage that using OpenIPA or some other LDAP server suite? This mindset makes me so sad. We have all the tools we need, yet people still insist on the proprietary cloud garbage.
Guys, Microsoft doesn't give two shits about home users. Their bread and butter is businesses. And M365 is amazing for business. If you think M$ suxors, you're not the target demographic. I'd much rather manage 200 users with M365 than some fucked up combo of slack, Google, Dropbox, and libreoffice.
You will have to think, If its so simple how long is such a job profile going to last? Better hope for complexity some times (:
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I just looked at OVH’s offerings and it looks like their email is just based on Microsoft Exchange Server? [1] I still count that as Microsoft. It’s the same software, just in OVH’s instead of Microsoft’s datacenters. [1] https://www.ovhcloud.com/en-ie/emails/
I actually didn't know that, thanks. Then I'd change OVH to Migadu, which works well too. And in my book it's already a good start if something is not hosted by Microsoft :)
Believe me, I am also a big proponent of open software and standards. But when the open options all seem to be inferior, then it doesn't make sense to go with them, especially when they have to support a business.
(also, the name is pretty funny to me, as 'mi gadu' is slang for 'oh my god' in the Netherlands :P)