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Google Search Is Dying

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Re: Google Search Is Dying

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Ive been experimenting with Kagi lately. It seems very promising. The results have been fairly reliable at all types of queries except the ones where I straight up ask google a question. Anyone else tried it? https://kagi.com/

Yeah, I like Kagi - and I even talked to the founder about working there. It doesn't do well at questions, and doesn't have some of google's widgets (e.g. currency conversion) but it's better than duckduckgo.

But seriously, who actually needs widgets and all the other distractions?

I've used Kagi since December and I'm ready to pay $5, $10 or even $20 a month if they just continue to provide the same quality as they do today.

I mostly search at work and I come to a search engine to find things I search for, not to get suggestions for what I should search for instead, not to enjoy cute widgets and stuff.

A search engine can be as basic as it wants if it gets my results, but if results are equal obviously nice is better than ugly.

Re: Google Search Is Dying

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post #76

Some really good thoughts here. I'll summarize the ones that hit me: - "Why are people searching Reddit specifically? The short answer is that Google search results are clearly dying. The long answer is that most of the web has become too inauthentic to trust." This is it for me exactly. I search for the following kinds of things on Reddit exactly because results on other sites aren't trustworthy: Reviews are secretl…

I, too, search " + reddit" often for product reviews and such. Thing is, the results on that front have started to slide as the paid review side of the internet catches on. I'm finding that it's getting harder and harder to trust the reddit search results - lots of shill accounts and obvious junk. That's not a google problem, specifically, but it's another degradation of a workaround for declining search result quali…

Yeah, a lot of subreddits are clogged with the same bad info that's gotten all over Google's front page. The stickied "list of recommendations" on an enthusiast sub is just the same as you'd get from clicking the top result of "Best X 2022" on Google, complete with affiliate links

Re: Google Search Is Dying

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post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I, too, search " + reddit" often for product reviews and such. Thing is, the results on that front have started to slide as the paid review side of the internet catches on. I'm finding that it's getting harder and harder to trust the reddit search results - lots of shill accounts and obvious junk. That's not a google problem, specifically, but it's another degradation of a workaround for declining search result quali…

The only real advantage of reddit is that somebody will usually be insulting the ad account, so you can hopefully glean some truth from the insults.

Unless there's a critical mass of shills, and then anyone who speaks out against them will get banned and/or downvoted to oblivion..

Re: Google Search Is Dying

#448

When looking for an answer we don't want the average opinion of the whole world, we want the best opinion of the expert in that subject. As the internet (and Google) reach out more and more, we get closer and closer to everyone and their opinion being online. And so the average answer online gets closer to the average opinion in the planet. I know Google thought PageRanknwas the answer for that but they now rely as m…

Would be cool if we could invent an AI oracle.

Would be hilarious if it gave deliberately tantalizing but unhelpful answers like the one in the myths

Re: Google Search Is Dying

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I find Google to be the best way to search other websites (which is the conclusion I get from reading this post).

People use Google to search Reddit, not Reddit.

I have found Google to be the absolute best way to search for tweets on Twitter. Twitter search is attrocious.

I do search for things on YouTube directly, but that's still Google Search.

Re: Google Search Is Dying

#450

Some really good thoughts here. I'll summarize the ones that hit me: - "Why are people searching Reddit specifically? The short answer is that Google search results are clearly dying. The long answer is that most of the web has become too inauthentic to trust." This is it for me exactly. I search for the following kinds of things on Reddit exactly because results on other sites aren't trustworthy: Reviews are secretl…

I agree. Often, what I am after online is to see what other real people are saying about something. typing 'reddit' into google is basically a proxy for "please google for the love of good, can you start indexing actual human discussions again?".
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