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Cannabis use produces persistent cognitive impairments: meta review

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Re: Cannabis use produces persistent cognitive impairments: meta review

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This. The very vast majority of cannabis consumers will never touch hard drugs, and have no desire to even consider it.

I don't know if the "gateway" concept is true or not but this fact (if true) doesn't dispute it. If you imagine hard drug use as a funnel with an optional step at the top - marijuana, with a very low conversation rate, the fact the conversation rate is low doesn't mean it's not the top of the funnel.

Is caffeine also at the top of the funnel? How about melatonin?

The fact that most heroin users have used caffeine previously does not mean that caffeine is a gateway drug to heroin, or at all correlated with hard drug use. The same applies to cannabis.

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You should assume any disturbance of your brains chemical equilibrium is bad long term. Those drugs included. Absent fixing a specific deficiency that is. If a study comes back and says, with a high confidence, that isn't the case for this or that, great, but I think it's a safe assumption for most chemicals. Edit: Just to be clear, I'm saying it's not enough to show something is bad, as pretty much everything is bad…

If you take the point a step further, your argument can be applied to everything including sugar, salt, etc. I think we are mostly in agreement - that any substance entering the body will have some effect. The question is what effect, how much of an effect, and wether it is permanent/long lasting. Questions which require a study to answer.

Totally agree. However, I highly doubt such a study will be possible for the same reasons we still argue about salt and sugar: what's the control?

Unless we're able to find twins that live largely the same lives absent the one factor, we are really only capable of sussing out the especially harmful things with long term lifestyle studies. If cannabis is as bad as sugar, then we have 40 years of back and forth to look forward to, and the answer will ultimately be: A little bit is bad, but not bad enough to matter more than how many steps you took today, or how sad or angry you were, or how late you ate dinner.

Re: Cannabis use produces persistent cognitive impairments: meta review

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honestly, i just recently found out my niece is taking seizure medicine that has a black box label, cannabis has been shown to help people who has seizures without all those risk associated with black label seizure medicine. i would prefer cannabis to be legal in her state because high cbd strains are still beneficial to a lot of people suffering. here is a video of a guy suffering from tremors due to Parkinson's dis…

Charlotte's Web is 50 state legal CBD

Re: Cannabis use produces persistent cognitive impairments: meta review

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Wow, impairment is not my intention at all. But, to not impair myself takes careful moderation and preparation. For cognitive benefits or "virtuous pot smoking", I need to have exercise, sleep, right intentions, a clean room and music. If I do it right, I have transformational ideas. If I don't write them down, they are gone. The first hour is often a wash. I expect little. I often combine with coffee. Then, after an…

>It is still a challenge, but I know i'm not the only high functioning cannabis user. There are plenty of people that are highly functioning and regular smokers of pot that don't go through this level of ceremony about their usage, and I am somewhat skeptical this level of preparation is even particularly helpful in making someone a high functioning cannabis user in general. Not saying it doesn't work for you, but th…

It's the same as with other drugs, set and setting really change the quality of the overall experience.

Preparation is usually important to have a good time.

e.g. I clean up my apartment, buy groceries, do anything that needs to be done.

This is sort of what gets me high already. It's a success and smoking after having everything done is a blast.

My head is empty and I have nothing on my mind. The perfect mix to really enjoy it (for me).

Re: Cannabis use produces persistent cognitive impairments: meta review

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I used to wish to be a professional drummer. When I was 14 I attended a drum camp for a week to meet and learn from some of the world’s best drummers, along with other children and adults from around the UK with similar ambitions. I became friends with one kid who was exceptionally talented as a musician, but also had a chronic marijuana habit. He was a better drummer than me at the time, but the drum camp was held e…

As a user, I highly recommend that anyone under 21 not use cannabis. Their young brain is still developing. It’s a drug like alcohol. Addiction can have consequences.

Agreed.

I started my drug usage in my mid-20s (including alcohol) and I highly recommend it. My brain was done cooking and I had enough self-confidence + self-awareness to not make dangerous decisions.

Re: Cannabis use produces persistent cognitive impairments: meta review

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post #393

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Smoke is different from vapor. When you vape cannabis, you're not actually combusting anything, just heating the plant matter enough that some of the particles on the flower are converted to vapor and inhaled.

I am a dire pothead who only uses their Pax2, but please don't frame accepting "plant vapor" into your lungs as a totally harmless thing. It's still heated organic material that your lungs arn't made to accept. It's better than smoking, but we need to be responsible and admit that it's not exactly without risk or harm.

The person you're responding to never said it was without risk, just that vaping isn't the same as smoking- and the scientific literature backs this statement up.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30049223/

> Conclusions: Single-dose inhalation of vaporized cannabis had no clinically meaningful positive or negative effect on airway function, exertional breathlessness, and exercise endurance in adults with advanced COPD. Clinical trial registered with www.clinicaltrials.gov (NCT03060993).

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4456813/

> The majority of studies suggest that vapourizers adequately reduce risk of pulmonary symptoms (5,14–16), although complete safety may require a regulated source of plant material, rather than ‘street’ samples, which produce ammonia (17).

> The findings suggest that vapourization reduces the delivery of toxic byproducts associated with the use of smoked cannabis. A subsequent experiment addressed exhaled carbon monoxide (CO) (14). The researchers found a statistically significant difference between the increase in CO exhaled following smoking cannabis versus vapourization. The amount of exhaled CO showed little to no increase following vapourization compared with large increases following smoking, which would be expected for inhalation of a combustion product. These findings give further evidence that vapourization reduces exposure to gaseous combustion toxins.

This isn't to say there is no risk, but if someone is going to consume cannabis it is amazingly clear that vaporizing it is safer than smoking it.

Re: Cannabis use produces persistent cognitive impairments: meta review

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I've known many people in silicon valley who smoke cannabis regularly (several times a week if not daily). They all seemed to be cognitively normal. Some of them function on a level I only wish I could attain. I think regular cannabis use attracts a certain type of person. That type of person can vary in their ability and intelligence, just like any type of person. This is also true of say, hardcore fans of fantasy f…

> I think regular cannabis use attracts a certain type of person. That type of person can vary in their ability and intelligence, just like any type of person. This matches my personal experience as well. I’m good friends with someone that holds a high-level FAANG position and consumes weed every day. While working. Attending meetings, coding, managing large teams, the whole she-bang. It’s unbelievable. They say it “…

I can code high, but I can't bug-fix or plan for shit.

Brains are weird.

Re: Cannabis use produces persistent cognitive impairments: meta review

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post #66

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This is totally irrelevant in multiple different ways.

Why is it that everytime a bad story about MJ is mentioned, there are always so many people in comments doubting authenticity and relevancy? It is almost like an agenda or something

I think its the fact that a story about a 14 year old using drugs is not an example of what 99.9% of the "nerds who think weed is excellent" have in mind when they talk about using cannabis
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