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Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Post by okanat »

downWidOutaFite wrote: post #229
amatecha wrote: post #165

Was there not a huge lawsuit around this kind of crap in the 90's? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Cor... . How did this anticompetitive BS ever get the greenlight from legal?

A good thing about monopolies is that it gives the government the power to step in and stop anti-consumer abuses. In duopolies, such as Windows/MacOS or iPhone/Android, the government doesnt have as much power.

Anti-trust laws are not only for true monopolies. Any company that has a significant percentage in the market (determined by the regulations and courts) can be scrutinized under anti-trust laws. At least in the EU.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Post by blacksmith_tb »

stormbrew wrote: post #420
blacksmith_tb wrote: post #333

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Hmm, I find it pretty practical, cmd-tab from one app to another, cmd-backtick to toggle between windows, I mean, it's a different paradigm, sure, but you can still move around from the keyboard? I do find it a little annoying that there aren't consistent shortcuts for moving between tabs in everything that uses them, could be cntrl-tab, could be alt-arrows...

The problem is cmd-tab brings everything up. For example, if you have a terminal window and a browser window next to each other that you're flipping between, but there's a browser window under the terminal window, cmd-tab will obscure the terminal.

Ah, sure, that makes sense. I guess I tend to be running 2-3 different browsers for different kinds of tasks, Chrome for work, Firefox for personal browsing, Brave for gmail, so I don't typically end up with multiple browser windows in the same browser. If I do for some reason, I tend to minimize all but the one I have been using with cmd-m.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Post by smhenderson »

zuminator wrote: post #293
eli wrote: post #185

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No, microsoft-edge links are used through Windows itself when it wants to show a webpage, e.g. from Cortana or a desktop widget. They open in Edge even if you've told Windows you want a different default browser

FWIW seems to me that if you rename msedge.exe to somethingelse.exe, that those microsoft-edge links don't work any longer. I don't know if you can actually get it to open another browser (I tried renaming firefox.exe to msedge.exe without achieving the desired result) but at least you can stop it from opening Edge, if that's what you want.

You can do that but Windows will just put edge back next time you update, or on some schedule, or who f*'ing knows anymore? I've done it several times, verified it won't start from the menu, won't start if I enable News and Weather and click it but somehow a couple days later it's back. I gave up trying to fight with it. If I click something and it opens in edge I just close it and try to never click that thing again.

I've given up using Windows at home, I don't get time lately to play games so I don't miss it. But I'm stuck using it at work and I catch myself wasting time getting upset about Microsoft's behavior with regards to this and have to just remind myself not to worry about it, close the window and move on... I'm there and getting paid to work, not to mess around with stupid crap like this, despite how much it irritates me.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Post by userbinator »

dade_ wrote: post #388
arepublicadoceu wrote: post #210

Windows 11 was an absolute downgrade to my Windows 10 experience. To the point that I went back to windows 10 in less than a day of Windows 11. 1. I can't ungroup the taskbar windows. So now I have to hoover the taskbar to see multiple instances of the same software; 2. Who the hell thought it was a great idea to couple all the commands like WiFi, power energy, etc under the same menu? On Windows 11 I needed to click…

It’s Windows Millennium Edition 2. Break things that worked fine, add things that add no value, recategorize everything to confound expert and novice users.

ME was mostly a less-stable 98SE, with very little in the way of UI changes.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Post by sorry_outta_gas »

soco wrote: post #331
tyingq wrote: post #213

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You can do the left-side placement with just Windows 11. There's a "taskbar alignment" setting that can be "left" or "center".

It's not "a setting" but an obscure registry entry. And have you actually tried it? I did and it's a joke - you get the taskbar there but no icons on it lol. And how about drag and drop? Or grouping?

it's just a setting for me, all of 3 clicks

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Post by deusum »

Thiez wrote: post #218
kroltan wrote: post #120

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You go to your system settings, and set your "default Web browser". You use any feature of the OS that would open a Web page, like Start menu searches, "help" links (that nowadays are just links to Bing searches, another shitshow I won't get into), or dynamic wallpaper info bites. The system says "fuck you" and opens the browser that is more convenient to their economic goals rather than your explicit choice. Is it i…

Why shouldn't it be illegal?

They thanked god, so probably another poor understanding of mythology.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Post by PikachuEXE »

cronix wrote: post #97
dragontamer wrote: post #25

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Alder Lake needed a new scheduler. So any 12th generation Intel build will greatly benefit from Win11 scheduler over Win10.

This is my first PC build, out of about 15-20 or so in the last 30 years going back to the 386sx16, that does not have an intel processor. I'm very happy with the price/performance of the 5950x.

I will use AMD for my next PC build too

Kind of waiting for Zen 3 with 3D V-Cache or even Zen 4 next year

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Post by birksherty »

grandpoobah wrote: post #418
8ytecoder wrote: post #359

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I could be wrong but iOS/macOS were probably the inspiration for MS.

I use Windows (10) and MacOS and I like the Mac way better. How often do I need to click on the wifi and volume icons? Hardly ever. Might as well merge them into one menu.

Many people have multiple wifi with different devices, printers on each, have to do it multiple times a day. It's a problem with single menu. What is the problem having separate button that are useful to others?

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Post by sorry_outta_gas »

Ygg2 wrote: post #381
jasonhansel wrote: post #59

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Literally true of Edge's relationship with Chrome. I believe we're now on the "extinguish" phase.

I think it's more likely Edge gets extinguished. It's like a blip on Chromium forks radar.

I'm seeing it everywhere

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Post by Prophasi »

blacksmith_tb wrote: post #333
greggman3 wrote: post #315

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It could be worse. You could be on MacOS where Cmd-Tab switches between apps not windows. I currently have 13 browser windows open (each with 3 to 15 tabs) and another 9 windows of other things (terminal, vscode, etc....) and IMO The Cmd-Tab vs Ctrl-Tab vs Ctrl-Up vs Ctrl-Down suck compared to Windows. I really want to easily switch to the previous window, not the previous app. Command + backtick doesn't work either.…

Hmm, I find it pretty practical, cmd-tab from one app to another, cmd-backtick to toggle between windows, I mean, it's a different paradigm, sure, but you can still move around from the keyboard? I do find it a little annoying that there aren't consistent shortcuts for moving between tabs in everything that uses them, could be cntrl-tab, could be alt-arrows...

I don't love it (yet). It's probably a combo of my Windows background, my ignorance of MacOS tricks, and actual limitations/flaws.

* Cmd+~ from a fullscreen window does nothing, and non-full windows of the app cycle only among each other. If I have fullscreen windows anywhere in my setup, it breaks my flow and (afaik) makes me mouse to the Window menu. I feel like MacOS's fullscreen paradigm is more to blame here, because it violates a range of other behaviors I'd expect.

* Unlike cmd+tab, cmd+~ doesn't give me a visual overview of my windows (how many? what order?). I can see why, since cmd+tab shows only icons and app names, which isn't enough to differentiate between windows of the same app (unlike alt+tab on Windows, which shows thumbnails, paths, page titles, etc.

* Cmd+~ also cycles in a static order, not most recently used. This feels like fallout from the second point, in that if you're not showing thumbnails it could get confusing.

The first one in particular took me a bit of time to realize; before I did, it just felt broken and made me not rely on cmd+~ at all.

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