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What's a physical password generator? Sounds interesting.

A token generator, a little device where you push a button and get a password. Sorry that the language was confusing, I wanted to make the point that tokens, codes, keys, whatever they want to call them are another password.

Ah I see, you mean 2FA or Two-Factor Authentication, right?

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> Technology created this problem. ...No. Your adoption of technology/social media into every facet of your life created this problem. I work in tech and I am not available when I'm not working. I don't participate in social media, but my social life is thriving during a pandemic. > Choosing to not be available is effectively making yourself a social pariah if your social circle is otherwise highly available. This so…

> No. Your adoption of technology/social media into every facet of your life created this problem. No, society's adoption created this problem, not an individual. > This sounds like a problem between you and your social circle. Now we're getting somewhere, we agree it's a problem. Congratulations that your particular social circle doesn't have this problem. But millions upon millions of them do.

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> Come on. Dismissing widespread problems as "not my problem, your problem" because it doesn't happen to affect you is so weak.

I think I didn't articulate my last comment well because you seem to misunderstand me.

I'm not saying it's not a problem and I'm not dismissing it at all. I'm saying it's not a problem that requires a societal or technological solution. I'm using my own experience as evidence for this. You can opt-out of all of this junk. I have; many others have. You already have all the tools you need to make this problem go away for yourself. Do you disagree? If so, what technological innovation, or societal evolution do you think would help you address this problem?

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That would destroy 90% of the tech industry.

Sure but there's probably a downside as well.

fucking lol. I think it'd suck for us have our SWE salaries crash down to non-tech levels. Making $140k after 10 years of experience at Google, oof. Tech VC's drained, how will I start my dog therapist app? But yeah, massive net benefit to society. Housing returning to normal levels, cities with blended cultures of white/blue collar and art workers.

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Televisions have more channels, but a far worse user interface with more latency.

I grew up with analog televisions - there was no latency and it was very forgiving of atmospheric noise. When I first got Tivo, I thought the latency made it unusable (until I realized that I was no longer flipping channels, but rather navigating to content..)

On the other hand, flipping channels led to serendipitous discovery - a cooking show that I would never have found interesting might spark something, or a news show presenting other points of view.

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I think that logo signs ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logo_sign ) are sufficient for helping the public find things.

Agreed, although those aren't present in all states (or even at all exits within states that use them). Edit: actually... IDK. In some states they're just useless too (you get off the interstate and then you find the business that was on the sign is 10 miles down the road, away from the interstate). At least the "this far to " and "this way to " part on billboards is usually accurate ;)

When I was driving around Maine I never saw a billboard (I assume banned) but they had little signs a bit bigger than a regular road-name sign that indicated in which direction various kinds of shops and restaurants would be with distances. Like a sign might point right and say "McDonald's 0.5 Miles ==>".

It wasn't necessarily as good as a giant golden M visible from a mile or more away, but it was sufficient. I think the logo signs + small directional signs once you're off the highway would do a good job in most areas. Plus once you're on the main drags that hold most of these things you'll be hard pressed to miss them. It didn't take long to get used to looking for them when driving around either.

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Advertising. I know this is an extreme view, but I think any advertising other than a spec sheet style ad (just facts) should be banned. I feel like it steals your attention and mindshare day after day. The ads I see on TV now (rarely, as I don't watch live TV much) are just so horrible. Dripping with emotions and trying to tug on your heartstrings to sell some toilet bowl cleaner or some other garbage. Social media.…

I basically don’t encounter any ads in my day-to-day life, digital or physical. I have no TV, and use uBlock Origin (including annoyances lists) on laptop and phone. I live in a tiny rural town so that practically the only advertising posters within a 35km radius are first-party advertising on two or three Telstra public phone booths, and in the decent-sized towns 40km away in either direction there’s barely any more…

If you consume any media, you're still getting hit by plenty of ads, they're just more subtle.

Product placements in TV and movies continues to grow each year, and an increasing proportion of seemingly organic social media posts are bought and paid for by companies, though never disclosed. I have a friend who has basically spent the last ten years helping brands to pay influencers to promote their stuff in subtle ways (first on YouTube, then Instagram, now TikTok), and her business has never been better.

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Advertising. I know this is an extreme view, but I think any advertising other than a spec sheet style ad (just facts) should be banned. I feel like it steals your attention and mindshare day after day. The ads I see on TV now (rarely, as I don't watch live TV much) are just so horrible. Dripping with emotions and trying to tug on your heartstrings to sell some toilet bowl cleaner or some other garbage. Social media.…

How do you discover information you’re not actively looking for? Eg maybe being environmentally friendly is super important to you. You don’t even realize that today the detergent you’re using isn’t as such. Advertising allows for someone to educate you that products exist that you’re not aware of that align to your needs/wants/desires.

Let’s experiment then, and go for a couple years where all advertising is banned. Then we can regroup and decide if our needs are still being met without ads.

Re: Ask HN: What things has tech made worse in your life?

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Advertising. I know this is an extreme view, but I think any advertising other than a spec sheet style ad (just facts) should be banned. I feel like it steals your attention and mindshare day after day. The ads I see on TV now (rarely, as I don't watch live TV much) are just so horrible. Dripping with emotions and trying to tug on your heartstrings to sell some toilet bowl cleaner or some other garbage. Social media.…

I work in digital advertising. I manage several billion impressions a year in ads spend and over $15M a year. I think it's easy for engineers to undervalue the importance of advertising. Without marketing, many many well-engineered products would never be discovered. This is why marketing is considered a core function of business. It speeds up the integration of new products and technologies into the general society. It seems like you're lumping all advertising for all products into the same category. It's more likely you just don't like seeing ads for products you don't like. And this is the goal of contemporary digital ads: To only show products to users who are likely to purchase them.

Human beings have ideas that organize themselves into formal groupings that need to be formally promoted in order to sustain the cost of the business. Products need to rapidly scale. And marketing/advertising makes that possible. Hating advertising is like hating the dollar for being necessary to exchange value in society.

We need advertising to make the products you engineer viable business ideas. Without advertising, 99.9% of good product will never be discovered.

Re: Ask HN: What things has tech made worse in your life?

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Advertising. I know this is an extreme view, but I think any advertising other than a spec sheet style ad (just facts) should be banned. I feel like it steals your attention and mindshare day after day. The ads I see on TV now (rarely, as I don't watch live TV much) are just so horrible. Dripping with emotions and trying to tug on your heartstrings to sell some toilet bowl cleaner or some other garbage. Social media.…

I work in digital advertising. I manage several billion impressions a year in ads spend and over $15M a year. I think it's easy for engineers to undervalue the importance of advertising. Without marketing, many many well-engineered products would never be discovered. This is why marketing is considered a core function of business. It speeds up the integration of new products and technologies into the general society.…

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