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Overly analytical guide to escorting

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> If you’re thinking about seeing escorts If you're thinking about seeing escorts, you better talk to your close male friends so they can talk you out of it. Work on yourself, and start asking normal women out. Yes, I know that's "scary" but that's how your parents met... (unless your mother is a whore!) There's a saying which was borne out of experience - "once a whore, always a whore". I actually know of one such c…

You might as well say the same thing about software developers. Instead of working honest jobs with their hands like most people, they just have to sit in a chair and be smart. Even if they get a real job, when the times get rough they will just go back to developing. Where is personal responsibility? Where is dignity? Making an effort to make an honest living?

> Instead of working honest jobs with their hands like most people, they just have to sit in a chair and be smart

if you want an even more bulletproof argument you could add that most tech workers are overpaid because they are benefitting from the rents/royalties extracted from intellectual property by the propertied class

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> We can't look at our body as some crutch which you can sell for a couple of hours. That's a good argument against wage labor in capitalism, but not a specific argument against prostitution as opposed to other, particularly physical, wage labor.

Comparing prostitution to physical labor is no different from comparing selling your organs to prostitution. Indeed, giving away for free a part of what you earned is bad, but giving a part of yourself, be it psychological or physical health(which should not be separated, actually, but lets not complicate things. Lots of things we can lose and still continue to live), is worse.

You are not paid only for physical labor in a company. You are expected to be part of the company culture, which, most of the times, is mental prostitution.

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If you're okay with one of these things but not the other, then you are applying a double standard based on a moralisation of sex. Sex as labour is no different than any labour, and there is no criticism of sex work that is whole an complete that does not also criticise the very system you're defending.

Sex is very different. Last I checked, no matter how much construction work you do, you will never construct another person, even by accident. Sex is not just another activity. Due to its effects of potentially creating a new human being, it is a category unto itself and deserves special treatment. For example, would you sell your pancreas? Why not? Is it because a vital organ is not in the same class of goods as say…

There are a lot of people in this world who sold their organs for money. Or people who accept to be infected with various diseases for money.

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There exist dominating languages in western culture - English, Spanish, French, German, and native speakers are getting comparatively easy pass. English has the magnifying factor of mostly American movie and music industries. I mean more the ruthless evolutional and statistical factors - no American, Spanish, French, German lady comes over here looking for romance, marriage, or sex. I might relocate there but startin…

And why are native women choosing foreign men over native men? Purely the result of "American movie and music industries"?

Because they have more money. It's a though market.

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No you may not. You are once again confusing people who rent out their time and those that rent out their bodies (prostitutes). You are really clutching at straws here trying to make prostitution morally equivalent to every other job in the market.

It is not me who is confused. In either case selling time IS selling limited power over yourself, the use of your capabilities. My employer pays me to think about their problems and solve them with my brain (and fingers). A client of a sex worker pays them to use other mental skills and body parts. How is one different than the other? There are many jobs that you would consider "normal" that are far more dangerous (e…

It is the sexual act itself that makes it special, which is why I'm against simply abstracting away all jobs to "using mental skills and body parts". A client of a hitman also pays them to use mental skills and body parts. How is being a hitman different than being a software engineer?

Sex is something women do not generally give out easily, especially to men they are interested in dating for the long term. Sex is also an intimate act that strengthens the bond between a couple. By selling sex, the woman devalues herself in the eyes of men. Why do women make guys wait for the Nth date before they have sex with them, if not for the sole purpose to make the guy think that the woman is of high value? You know, that she doesn't just sleep with anyone just like that.

Ask yourself this:

1. Would you marry or date a woman who does sex work?

2. Would you be OK with your daughter/sister doing sex work?

Then ask yourself the same questions after s/sex work/software engineering/g and tell me if you get the same answer.

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The funniest part of this article (in the context of being posted on HN) is that the author separately mentions engineer and software engineer in her list of client professions. That settles it - normal people think they're different.

I say this as a software engineer, does anyone honestly believe that software engineers are engineers?

Some are. ( HW engineer here). But most of them are artists.

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> well we've found our misogynist Pointless name calling. > right, because women have bodily autonomy and basic health care services available to them everywhere. yes i am talking about abortion You already have bodily autonomy, you can a) make sure you use a condom or better yet, an IUD b) refrain from sex unless you are OK with getting pregnant. Every time I see an argument about abortion, pro-choice advocates choo…

> Pointless name calling. you realize you are the one referring to women who do sex work as 'whores'.... > You already have bodily autonomy, you can a) make sure you use a condom or better yet, an IUD b) refrain from sex unless you are OK with getting pregnant. again showing your misogynist colors; where is male contraception? where is the vasectomy in your list of recommendations/strategies? > ignore the choice aspe…

> you realize you are the one referring to women who do sex work as 'whores'....

I don't have to adopt your terminology.

> again showing your misogynist colors; where is male contraception? where is the vasectomy in your list of recommendations/strategies?

I did mention 'condom', didn't I? What does a vasectomy have to do with it? An IUD is more effective than a condom, btw.

> seriously, you are digging such a deep hole here

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You might as well say the same thing about software developers. Instead of working honest jobs with their hands like most people, they just have to sit in a chair and be smart. Even if they get a real job, when the times get rough they will just go back to developing. Where is personal responsibility? Where is dignity? Making an effort to make an honest living?

> Instead of working honest jobs with their hands like most people, they just have to sit in a chair and be smart if you want an even more bulletproof argument you could add that most tech workers are overpaid because they are benefitting from the rents/royalties extracted from intellectual property by the propertied class

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What you quoted does not really imply you are at an extreme risk of getting a deadly virus.

At 17%, if you do it a long period of time you definitely get it. Even if it isn't deadly virus, you get something nasty and most likely permanently.

"even if it isn't a deadly virus" is the relevant part here

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> "once a whore, always a whore" > Basically, once a woman tries out whoring > weird analogies claiming that whoring (renting out your body for money) is just like physical labor, which is fscking insane. > How is being sexually penetrated by a stranger, ejaculated on, etc... anything like a man doing manual labor? well we've found our misogynist > Why is she even a single-mom in the first place? right, because women…

> well we've found our misogynist Pointless name calling. > right, because women have bodily autonomy and basic health care services available to them everywhere. yes i am talking about abortion You already have bodily autonomy, you can a) make sure you use a condom or better yet, an IUD b) refrain from sex unless you are OK with getting pregnant. Every time I see an argument about abortion, pro-choice advocates choo…

>Maybe it is not clear to some people that sex is first and foremost a means of reproduction, and not just pleasure?

Shut the fuck up you fucking loser

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