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Chip shortage leads carmaker Opel to shut German plant until 2022

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Re: Chip shortage leads carmaker Opel to shut German plant until 2022

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One important part of the chip shortage is the massive amount of price gouging going on. Every IC is being bought up by new 3rd party distributors to scalp to desperate electronics manufacturers. Take a look at this chip we are just now crossing as an example, click on 'Non-authorized stocking distributors': https://octopart.com/tps2052bdgnr-texas+instruments-699312?r... Win Source has a bunch, but you will pay 6x th…

There is no better wat to encourage additional production/reuse/alternatives. Shortage just tells binary signal, prices lets you actually esimate how much this and that will cost.

Re: Chip shortage leads carmaker Opel to shut German plant until 2022

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most things you mention are mandated by the government, you can't sell a car in any western market without tire pressure monitoring, stability control, back up camera etc. the manufacturers have no choice, it would be like suggesting they sell cars without seatbelts.

Back up cameras are not mandatory until May 2022 in the EU.

Ah. Not only does our car (VW from 2016) not have one, I don't think I have ever been in a car that had a backup camera.

Reading in this thread that it's impossible to even buy a car without it is very surprising to me.

Re: Chip shortage leads carmaker Opel to shut German plant until 2022

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Yeah, I don't like how overcomplicated many products are becoming but even then wouldn't buy a car without at least AC and Bluetooth.

You could easily pick up an after market bluetooth-enabled product. A/C is definitely important however.

Though A/C doesn't really need much in the way of electronics.

Re: Chip shortage leads carmaker Opel to shut German plant until 2022

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Exactly there’s a “guilty by association” fallacy here. 1. You want the government to control production of some resources. 2. Stalin controlled production of some resources 3. Stalin killed millions of people 4. Therefore, you want to kill millions of people

No, there is only "knowing that communist central planning always ends up in shortages". See here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19970544 for an example that illustrates the point nicely.

"Some central planning" does not mean "communism".

Re: Chip shortage leads carmaker Opel to shut German plant until 2022

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Actually the original ‘free’ in free markets meant free from economic rents

Sure, but that’s not what it means anymore, right? Today’s “free” means no regulation.

Yeah now it means “free to capture economic rent” almost the exact opposite.

Re: Chip shortage leads carmaker Opel to shut German plant until 2022

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The way I see it, this makes sense in a hypothetical world of perfect theoretical models (you may recognize this world as being the one inhabited by frictionless, perfectly spherical cows). In this world, scalpers cause the market to price in "stickiness" - the more critical an item is to the buyer, the more they'll be willing to pay - so the supply ultimately gets allocated to the most desperate of buyers, for the p…

It seems to me like most of the (alleged) benefits of scalpers would be equally well achieved by selling (some fraction of) the items in auctions, instead of just picking a price. However, my impression is that consumers would view this in a negative light, and that the harms to the seller’s reputation would be enough to outweigh the initially increased income. This seems to be the source of the inefficiencies that s…

There was a minor controversy nearly a year ago where a MSI subsidiary that was only supposed to get old/refurb stock managed to get new stock of the nvidia 30 series and then proceeded to sell them with inflated pricing. Being charitable I'd say it's likely someone over-enthusiastic at that subsidiary and it blew up in their face, but it doesn't help with them being perceived as fair

Re: Chip shortage leads carmaker Opel to shut German plant until 2022

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@kliment summarized the why pretty well: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26931498 Curious if this is true for all manufacturers.

What would cause pretty much all STM32 microcontrollers to be not available and any amount that shows up disappears within minutes? Then you can buy pretty much any part from China without issue?

STM32s from China increased 3 to 5 times in price in last 6 months, biggest jump happened in last 6 weeks. STM32L family is especially hard to buy.

Re: Chip shortage leads carmaker Opel to shut German plant until 2022

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What's the point of buying a car without A/C? You might save $1000 now, but you'll lose several thousand at trade-in time because no one else will want your car.

No parasitic power losses and it's one less system that needs to be maintained.

AC is used for windshield defrost. I remember waiting for heat to defrost the windshield so I could see. AC defrost works in 10 sec.

Re: Chip shortage leads carmaker Opel to shut German plant until 2022

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Backup cameras have been an optional extra for a long time sure, but I don't think I'm aware of any car that actually comes standard with one. Well, maybe a Mercedes-Benz S-Class. I do have a backup camera in my 10-year-old Benz, but I imagine that the original owner paid a four-digit amount of euros for it back in the day.

'Rear Visibility' is required in new cars in US by FMVSS 111. Test procedure mandates field of view to rear of vehicles during backing, that are practical to satisfy with cameras. mirrors would require like a periscope to satisfy.

Yeah, but the US isn't the EU.

Re: Chip shortage leads carmaker Opel to shut German plant until 2022

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> I'm guessing that is a statistical artifact. No, it’s a difference in business models. Low cost carriers approach things very differently. https://youtu.be/1-uNMj57Y4c It’s not that their wasting this 15% of their unused seats airlines are simply more profitable with this pricing model. “While you might expect the airlines to lower their prices a few days before the departure day to occupy the last seats, the oppos…

Well, sure, but that is assuming that the market is exactly 85 people. If we hold the number of people fixed and it is impossible to sell all of the inventory then holding back inventory is much more effective - because we have assumed it is impossible to sell. The hypothetical in that article would make more money if they sold 80 seats at $495, 15 seats at 900 and then 5 at $1500 (that makes $60,600). There are stro…

No, the math works fine. Ignoring baggage fees and first class vs catch etc. If you have a flight with 300 identical seats and you could sell everyone single one of them for say 100$ and that’s your maximum possible revenue from a single price point. Now the question becomes how do you capture value from people willing to pay more than 100$? You can play some games with round trip tickets and minimum stays, but again let’s ignore that and just focus on the ramp up.

If you designate say 75% of your ticks at a lower price of X then some people willing to pay more will just buy at that price. Essentially the trick is to minimize people who are willing to pay more who end up buying cheaper tickets. And it turns out people booking close to the flight are generally willing to pay more. Sure six months out they still sell off up to 75% of tickets at ~100$ raising or lowering prices based on demand so their losses are limited if nobody else buys the ticket the flight is still mostly full. But at that 75% they start the ramp up and they also ramp things up as the flight gets close.

2 weeks out they say all tickets are 200$ even if some of those 75% are unsold. At the last day bump it to 400$. If over 1 month we can ignore seats at 100$ because that’s unchanged. Sell 1,000 seats at 200$, and 500 seats at 400$ and fly with say 1500 empty seats that’s 400,000$ where you would only make 300,000$ if all 3,000 seats where sold for 100$. But what if they dropped prices at the last hour? Well most of the time they have empty seats so many would avoid the 400$ ticket and would tend to wait around for that window especially for flights from A to B leaving every hour. Peak prices are a game of chicken and they can’t blink or they lose billions in revenue.

This is of course heavily simplified but it does demonstrate the basic trick I am talking about where they extract value from unsold inventory.

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