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If you give a monkey a machine gun, and the monkey shoots someone, we don't blame the monkey. Society has always had court jesters who poke fun at authority. If you take health and epidemiology advice from a comedian then that's on you.
That metaphor doesn't work though because Joe Rogan is a person, not a monkey. Give a person a machine gun and if they shoot someone you do blame them.
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All of us are right and wrong to varying degrees. I don't think Joe Rogan cares much for people that stop listening because he doesn't reinforce their politics. He never has. He's also spoken about the whole point of him having FU money is that he is able to say whatever he wants and not care about the blowback. I'm not anti-vax, but ultimately, my body, my choice. People who are risk averse are free to self-quaranti…
Why aren't you vaccinated?
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I well understand the history of this topic, after all, I have two years of Caltech physics :-) Nevertheless, as Einstein demonstrated, things look very different depending on the frame of reference. There's no such thing as a "normal" frame of reference. > the geocentricists tried to build mechanical models but the increasing number of epicycles was a big clue that the system was in fact heliocentric. Not exactly, i…
Does relativity apply also to rotating reference frames?
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the health experts a year ago said vaccines would make this go away, and before that they predicted that masks and social distancing would flatten the curve. With the exception of a few countries, none of that happened. At this ponit, I don't think anyone knows anything. due to rampant downvoting, I will respond to individual replies here: "This worked perfectly basically anywhere people actually complied. " Italy ha…
> The claim by the experts was that the vaccines were 95% effective at stopping the spread. No, vaccines are not expected to prevent infection or spread, and almost none do. For example, flu vaccines don't keep you from from getting infected, and the virus still spreads successfully even when vaccination rates are high. What the flu shot does is (hopefully) cause you to have less severe symptoms. Vaccines are designe…
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> his move to Spotify coincided with him spewing more and more anti-vax and anti-mask drivel that I don't have any interest in listening to I listen to his show sometimes, and while I've heard him have guests on from all sides of these issues, at no point have I heard him be anything less than a thoughtful, critical interviewer. If that's "drivel", we need more drivel. I'll certainly take it over everything I see on…
But "both sides of an issue" is, in this situation, the right side of an issue and the wrong side of an issue. That's like saying he has guests on both sides of the flat earth issue, except there are actual lives at stake.
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Says people who don’t watch joe rogan. Joe rogan has two kinds of guests: experts/scientists and show biz people. The former are why I watch the podcast. And I think it’s important because it gives a platform to people are being ignored by the mainstream. Take for example Paul Saladino. Watch that podcast and tell me it’s pseudo science. You can’t because he’s meticulously citing a paper and bringing up that paper to…
I came across a very thorough analysis of the Paul Saladino episode [0] the other day when I was researching him after a friend recommended his book. Seemed like he was cherry picking evidence pretty hard and that the majority of the evidence doesn't agree with his stance at all [0] https://www.biolayne.com/articles/research/paul-saladino-on-...
Hell, I'm sure if this Saladino guy just completely made up a study and presented it as fact, the vast majority of the users will never bother to check if that study even exists, let alone verify the claims. Most listeners are just there to reaffirm their preexisting beliefs.
Personally, I just don't trust people that push such narrow solutions to complex systems (nutrition in this case).
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#448Spotify is just not set up for long-form video content. The discovery aspect of YouTube is one reason why it reels you in. You're scrolling through your feed, you see an interesting clip, and you click on it. Another big part of YouTube is the comment section. Spotify lacks on both fronts. I also think the JRE clips were a big part of what sucked people into watch full epsiodes. If a 5-7 minute JRE clip were interest…
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#449The increased friction has resulted in stopping me from consuming two things that I should have been cutting down on anyway.
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This. I just wish he'd take his enormous reach a little more seriously when he entertains quack pseudoscience as if it's an equally valid POV to real peer-reviewed science.
Is this a joke? How many different things have scientists said about every single thing that has happened in this pandemic?