Video game developers at Activision Blizzard say they'll walk out Wednesday

Post by lupire » Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 10:07 PM UTC

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The thing is, your "average gamer" won't know or care about any of this. I work in the industry and according to our own stats the "average gamer" is a 20-30 year old, owns a console, and buys exactly three games every year - fifa, CoD, and one other title that got the most advertising that year. I used to live with such guys at uni, had them as flatmates - you wouldn't catch them dead talking about video games, "ner…

Then why did Activision Blizzards stock just drop 8%? Clearly the market believes they wont recover nicely after this.

Post by lupire » Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 10:10 PM UTC

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Appeal to public opinion is generally a great idea but there is a risk. Activision gets no sympathy from me, but I also don't think the answer will come from the masses. I'm not sure that most gamers really care about sexism in the gaming industry. Video games are synthetic, we don't really see the people behind them. At least in movies we see the actors. If push comes to shove, I think most gamers will still be lini…

Are you lumping in the workers of Blizzard with the "masses" of gamers saying actions by either wont have a consequence? That's what it reads like. I think ultimately the workers staging a walk out or even stopping work would have the quickest and surest effect. The government setting labor standards isn't always the most effective, not to mention no one knows the pain suffered or actions needed more than the workers…

Post by Aeolun » Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 10:11 PM UTC

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"it's common for men to talk down to men on video games too" This is very tone deaf. I have spent probably thousands of hours playing games (with a mic) and the % of times I've been "talked down to" is very small, and it was never because of a natural property about me (that I'm male, etc). Literally every woman that I've played with who has used a mic or otherwise presented themselves as female has faced vitriolic h…

> every woman ... has vitriolic harassment faced (and/or sexual harassment). I experienced being treated differently when I was playing a very attractive Blood Elf Warrior in World of Warcraft ten years ago: a fellow adventurer would continually give me gifts (valuable in-game items). The third time this happened I realized he wasn't being generous—he was courting me! I had to come clean. I messaged him, "Dude, I got…

Post by munk-a » Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 10:13 PM UTC

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No. You better be able to articulate what job-relevant reason is behind your dislike and be able to express it in those terms. If you go with your gut feel alone, you could be easily selecting for physical attractiveness, extroversion, a nice smile or some of the many less acceptable biases. Maybe you have perfectly diverse personal discretion, but most people choose copies of themselves or attractive members of the…

> You better be able to articulate what job-relevant reason is behind your dislike I have to work with them? If they have a shitty personality that’s going to be hard. I’d much rather select for unconscious biases than hire terrible people just to satisfy some people’s idea of what is politically correct.

Post by nineplay » Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 10:14 PM UTC

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Why don't you like them _and_ which of those reasons will affect their job performance? Do they dismiss any approaches besides their own? Do they think mentoring is a waste of time? Do they think that their code is so obvious that there's no point in documenting? Do they think their code is so perfect that unit tests are unnecessary? These are good reasons to dislike someone and not hire them. Do you dislike them bec…

> Why don't you like them _and_ which of those reasons will affect their job performance? > Do they dismiss any approaches besides their own? Do they think mentoring is a waste of time? Do they think that their code is so obvious that there's no point in documenting? Do they think their code is so perfect that unit tests are unnecessary? These are good reasons to dislike someone and not hire them. > Do you dislike th…