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Post by jollybean »

dasickis wrote: post #120

I'm the person this original tweet was about. None of you know any of the internal details but what I can state is that Paul has no idea what he's talking about and later admits to the fact I wasn't lying. Here's the order of events: 1. I went to a neighborhood clinic in Oakland, CA that's literally next door to my house, I can see the church from my window. Paul lives in NYC which is on the opposite end of the count…

As it is presented it does not seem controversial. If someone is not misrepresenting themselves, and they are following the rules of the site/clinic then there's no concern here.

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Post by buu700 »

TaylorAlexander wrote: post #308
mbgerring wrote: post #274

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So just so everyone has the full context: Oakland opened up its vaccination sites to more people on a shorter timeline than the rest of the state, in certain ZIP codes with disproportionately poor residents, in order to get vaccines to those disproportionately poor residents. I know this because this is how several of my friends who live in West Oakland got vaccinated ahead of the eligibility opening up in the rest o…

Agree. Really not tooting my own horn but I qualified very early for the vaccine because I am a “farm worker” and while I really do work at a farm and all employees qualified early, I’m actually a robotics engineer with no necessary contact between me and those that tend the fields. I have an isolated office and I work alone. I felt that if I ever decided to get the shot because of my employment as a “farm worker”, t…

I agree with what you're saying, and made the same decision myself. I was advised by someone who'd looked into it that I could have qualified as a healthcare worker and gotten into phase 1B or 1C, because my startup Cyph has customers in the healthcare industry. However, I work remotely and don't have all that much human contact even outside of a pandemic, so it didn't make sense to me to skip the line and take a more deserving person's spot on a technicality. (I am fully vaccinated now, though.)

That being said, based on the limited information in this thread, it seems to me that Paul unfortunately started a whole lot of drama over nothing.

My choice was a personal decision that made sense for me, not an absolute moral value that I feel entitled to impose on the world. I don't know these people's situations, or why they felt they needed the shot more urgently than I did, but even if our situations were identical it's not obvious that my decision was more correct. Arguably, they were more correct based on the position from the NY Times article someone else linked ("If you're offered a vaccine, take it"). At worst there's an argument that they were inconsiderate, but it's silly to raise a stink about such a morally grey issue.

If anyone is truly upset about this, why not instead write/call whichever level of government is responsible for having structured the system such that these things happen and are neither illegal nor discouraged?

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Post by sulam »

fdschoeneman wrote: post #315
sulam wrote: post #90

I think it's telling that Atherton and Piedmont were above 80% vaccinated well before vaccinations were open to the general public. "Wait your turn" is not how they became members of their respective clubs.

Interesting statistic. Do you have a citation?

Sorry, I was too hard on Piedmont. Here’s the interesting article:

https://www.sfchronicle.com/local/article/Bay-Area-vaccinati...

Scroll down for the delta between vaccination eligibility and actual rates.

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Post by jackmodern »

dang wrote: post #210

The submitted title was "Y Combinator kicks out Paul Biggar over a tweet". That is inaccurate, so in keeping with the HN guidelines (" Please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize. " https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html ), I've replaced the title with the tweet text. That's the standard thing we do with titles, when people post Twitter links. Much as I'd love to,…

youre a cunt

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Post by Wanker_News »

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Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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Post by systemvoltage »

chx wrote: post #425
systemvoltage wrote: post #317

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A friend of mine flew out from Zurich to CA to get a shot. They gave him one without checking anything. His response? “America has the best vaccine program on the planet. They have so many rules in Zurich that the confusion is holding things back. They’d rather throw away vaccines than break minor rules”. Vaccination should be easy, bureaucracy free and straightforward; especially now . I can understand age restricti…

> friend of mine flew out from Zurich to CA to get a shot. I call BS. Unless said friend is a US citizen, people who have physically been to the Schengen area have been forbidden to enter the US for quite a while now. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/from-oth...

There are exceptions, I’m sure otherwise I would have not met him (!!). His wife is US citizen. He is not. What more can I say?

You can call BS all you want. Your response sort of violates the HN protocol of assuming the best of people.

Edit: Perhaps because his wife is US Citizen, this would apply but not sure: "As further provided in each proclamation, citizens and lawful permanent residents of the United States, certain family members, and other individuals who meet specified exceptions, who have been in one of the countries listed above in the past 14 days will be allowed to enter the United States". I really don't know.

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Post by systemvoltage »

pseudalopex wrote: post #428
chx wrote: post #425

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> friend of mine flew out from Zurich to CA to get a shot. I call BS. Unless said friend is a US citizen, people who have physically been to the Schengen area have been forbidden to enter the US for quite a while now. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/from-oth...

Why not assume their friend is a US citizen?

He is not a US citizen.

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Post by turtlebits »

simonbw wrote: post #344
cavisne wrote: post #278

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This was actually fake news, Yakima fema site had the same eligibility as elsewhere in the state https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/washingtoni... A good example of how confusing and micro managed the eligibility charade was.

I live in Seattle. What I remember is that they advertised that they were following the same eligibility requirements as everywhere else in the state, but they were having such trouble getting enough people to show up that they put out requests for anyone over 18 to show up. I know a few people who drove out there to get their shots a couple weeks ahead of when they would be eligible to make an appointment elsewhere…

My manager drove out to Yakima. While they don't enforce eligibility, I still think it's immoral to try to get a shot when you aren't eligible.

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Post by doctor_eval »

dang wrote: post #392
duckfang wrote: post #385

Earlier quoted context omitted.

switch the letters of my username. that's what I think of you.

Oh yes that's clear, but it's also bloody clever and you get points for that. I'm sorry if my reference seemed like a swipe; I was just trying to speak duck with you. When people say this kind of stuff to me, I try not to take it personally because the truth is that you don't know me and I don't know you; what you're saying is not what you think of me , it's what you think of the image that you've constructed from a…

I don’t know how you do this, dang, but I certainly wish I had your level of chill.

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Post by Karrot_Kream »

mbgerring wrote: post #274
dasickis wrote: post #120

I'm the person this original tweet was about. None of you know any of the internal details but what I can state is that Paul has no idea what he's talking about and later admits to the fact I wasn't lying. Here's the order of events: 1. I went to a neighborhood clinic in Oakland, CA that's literally next door to my house, I can see the church from my window. Paul lives in NYC which is on the opposite end of the count…

So just so everyone has the full context: Oakland opened up its vaccination sites to more people on a shorter timeline than the rest of the state, in certain ZIP codes with disproportionately poor residents, in order to get vaccines to those disproportionately poor residents. I know this because this is how several of my friends who live in West Oakland got vaccinated ahead of the eligibility opening up in the rest o…

I stood in one of those Oakland lines myself and what I saw sickened me, so I left. I had taken a day off (long planned) and decided to check out a line around a mosque, asked an organizer what was going on, and sat myself in the line. I saw people rushing into line. Many of them called their friends or sent status updates on their phones and their friends joined them in line. Almost everyone in that line _was not_ from the neighborhood. As I saw people chit chatting about their work from home life, I started feeling a bit queasy. When the organizers started mentioning that doses might be out, people started getting angry, which made me even more disturbed. When I saw someone kick over a candle on the sidewalk that was on a person's memorial, I just had the last straw. I left. It wasn't my place to get a vaccine, I was not from this zip code.

What's funny is that friends of mine who were okay with that waited for hours and hours (up to 8 for some) to get their vaccine. I got mine 2 weeks later in my car, and was in and out within 30 minutes. The mania seemed so stupid and gross in hindsight, but I think some of my friends at least regretted it.

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