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Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by Ayesh »

NeckBeardPrince wrote: post #403
Ayesh wrote: post #382

I love Firefox ethos, Firefox keeps redesigning itself over and over, and this time, for the worse. I have a 400 LOC userChrome.css file because the new redesign was barely usable since Firefox beta received this makeover. - There is no tab contrast, and very difficult to tell tabs apart. Made worse on sides without Favicons. - I loved the mic/speaker icon when a tab is playing/listening audio. They had to make it TW…

Mind sharing that userChrome.css?

Here it is: https://gist.github.com/Ayesh/16b448f7bdbf76d4e954f48623111c... I excluded some rules that I used to tame the new tab page, but this one mostly brings the proton designs down, and removes a ton of context menu items.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by RheingoldRiver »

1_player wrote: post #346
pteraspidomorph wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your day to day experience isn't necessarily the same as everyone else's. It hasn't been long since "View page info" was confined to a hidden menu and all context menu labels were changed for absolutely no reason.

My issue with the context menu is "Search [selection] with Google" is in the middle of the context menu, after "Print selection" and "Take screenshot". Why? I cannot be the only one that uses that functionality 100 times a day at least, and it's so not conveniently placed I used to misclick "View selection source" instead a dozen times a day, and now I'll be taking screenshots or opening the print dialog by mistake.…

You can use your userchrome.css to apply a background-color selectively to individual context-menu options. I do it for "view background image" and "copy link location," both of which I turn a deep purple. I've found this makes misclicks on these options (which are pretty much the only two I ever use) next to zero.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by 0-_-0 »

cecilpl2 wrote: post #422
1_player wrote: post #346

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My issue with the context menu is "Search [selection] with Google" is in the middle of the context menu, after "Print selection" and "Take screenshot". Why? I cannot be the only one that uses that functionality 100 times a day at least, and it's so not conveniently placed I used to misclick "View selection source" instead a dozen times a day, and now I'll be taking screenshots or opening the print dialog by mistake.…

It's awful. "Search with Google" is actually the only reason I ever use the context menu. Copy? Keyboard/mouse buttons for that. Select All? Why would I want to do that when I just made a selection? Print Selection? How common can that actually be, to justify being positions above "search the internet for this thing"?? Take screenshot???? Really?? Why does "Inspect Accessibility Properties" get real estate there? Tha…

If you're a mouse user you can drag and drop the selection to the address bar.

If you're a keyboard user you can do: ctrl-c ctrl-t ctrl-v enter

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by childintime »

Tried it, but I don't support using it, my productivity is down.

I tried to "Submit Feedback", to urge FF to roll this back immediately. But that page also didn't let me get to the point.

So I'll give my feedback this way: I'll install another browser now. Any recommendations?

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by childintime »

childintime wrote: post #444

Tried it, but I don't support using it, my productivity is down. I tried to "Submit Feedback", to urge FF to roll this back immediately. But that page also didn't let me get to the point. So I'll give my feedback this way: I'll install another browser now . Any recommendations?

I ended up reverting to Firefox 88, losing my profile:

- downloaded Firefox 88 at: https://download-installer.cdn.mozilla.net/pub/firefox/relea...> (Windows)

Install, accept Create new Profile". Then immediately:

- check "Check for updates but let you choose to install them".

- uncheck "Use a background service to install updates"

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by pmlnr »

leodriesch wrote: post #53

It is fascinating how much negative feedback the redesign is getting on HN. I am using it on Mac and Windows now and I think it is great! The Firefox design always felt very dated compared to Chrome, Safari and Edge. Not the case anymore :)

When will people learn there's no such thing as dated design, just design people finally got used to?

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by gtf21 »

lulalalalala wrote: post #437
cecilpl2 wrote: post #422

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's awful. "Search with Google" is actually the only reason I ever use the context menu. Copy? Keyboard/mouse buttons for that. Select All? Why would I want to do that when I just made a selection? Print Selection? How common can that actually be, to justify being positions above "search the internet for this thing"?? Take screenshot???? Really?? Why does "Inspect Accessibility Properties" get real estate there? Tha…

Just want to say "Take screenshot" is the only reason I use context menu.

Yes! Me too and so when a site hijacks right click it's a little infuriating (but I have now learnt the keyboard shortcut).

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by vort3 »

sorenjan wrote: post #231

I find it infuriating how designers keep adding more and more whitespace and padding on my desktop computer. If you want to make your UI easier to use on touch devices that's fine, but Windows 10 has a tablet mode that I keep disabled, so there's no reason to assume I'm not using a mouse. If I go to Customize toolbar there's three density options: Touch, Normal, and Compact (not supported). Why aren't there a support…

Having empty space is considered «clean», «light», «fresh» and having less buttons (by hiding everything into some menus that you need 3 clicks to access) is called «streamlined interface».

I hate that too. On my phone that is 2.5x larger than my old Samsung I see less information on screen compared to old phone, because everything needs to be «light» and «clean».

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by vort3 »

rubyist5eva wrote: post #84

I can't stand this new UI. Removing icons that which ends up making navigating menus more difficult, these new "floating" tabs are ugly as sin, you can barely see them in light mode...just...awful. Making the browser harder to use to follow "design trends" is ruining Mozilla. That Alpenglow theme was a completely asinine waste of resources, just make your browser match the system theme - we have theme extensions for…

The only things I ask for are:

- Non-Google, non-chromium, non-blink engine browser - Support for good keyboard navigation (vimium etc) - Support for Ublock Origin

And the only browser that satisfies those requirements is ruining my user experience by removal of «compact» mode (I know it can be brought back but it's temporary) and making UI bigger without any reason, because having unnecessary empty spaces everywhere is what's considered good design now.

Recently I opened some page that was filled with ads and banners and only 17% of my screen was actually filled by content that I want to be reading. Now, with the new Proton™ design I guess I'll have to get used to 12% of my screen being used.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by account42 »

jamienicol wrote: post #370
earth_walker wrote: post #290

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I disagree. These small unnecessary tweaks can really disrupt regular users' workflows. For example, they just changed "Undo close tab" to "Reopen closed tab". Not only is it difficult to justify how this is clearer (any casual computer user should be familiar with the concept of 'undo'), but for a regular user: - There's a period where you have to adjust, scanning for the correct menu entry each time; - This change…

> Imagine if your editor changed its key bindings, or renamed features with each minor update? I honestly wish my editor did. Emacs very deliberately does not do such things, and the result is a complete mess of weird keybindings, and many duplicated commands and modes which are just slightly different to each other. It's so scared of disrupting an existing user's workflow that the product as a whole definitely suffe…

The solution is to change the default keybindings for new users (bonus if there is an option to get the old presets for new installs) while not messing with the setup for existing users and let them change their settings when *they* want to.
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