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uBlock Origin works best on Firefox
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Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox
#442Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah that's all true maybe but the other vendors are far worse AFAIK.
> Upon install, FF installs a scheduled service that runs daily. From what I've found out, that service is sending back to Mozilla what your default browser is on YOUR PC (why is that their business). This scheduled service remains on your PC even after uninstalling Firefox and continues to run daily. This is shocking to me. More information, if anyone is not aware yet: https://firefox-source-docs.mozilla.org/toolkit…
Isn't default browser usage potentially useful statistical information? What's the worst that will likely happen if people have that data?
Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox
#443Earlier quoted context omitted.
But don’t forget Microsoft let IE rot for years and that is what drove the interest - and the protest - for alternatives and helped Flash thrive. Today Chrome is a fairly good platform, tons of support for all sorts of html extensions, and a very strong commitment to security. It’s a really nice product, except for the strings attached. Alphabet should be broken up and Chrome (OS) spun off into its own business; the…
Interestingly, this type of perspective is only gained in hindsight. For example, I could see a future, say in 10 years, where we have a vastly better way to browse the web and then we will look back on today and think that Chrome(ium) was coasting on its past success and only providing minor new features (while ensuring that ads continue to be as profitable as possible).
I definitely remember takes in the genre of "who cares if IE is never updated. What else could you possibly do on the web?" back when websites were mostly static, JavaScript was still a toy, and all the people who could imagine better were trying to convince everyone to switch to [Phoenix, Firebird, Firefox]. Microsoft had the inspiration for XMLHttpRequest right there and couldn't see past its Windows-centric strategy.
There's an alternate timeline where Microsoft leaned on anyone implementing it. We never would have gotten as far as Sun suing Google over the Java API because no one crossed Microsoft.
No AJAX. No web 2.0. No SPAs. It would be a different world.
Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox
#444Earlier quoted context omitted.
But don’t forget Microsoft let IE rot for years and that is what drove the interest - and the protest - for alternatives and helped Flash thrive. Today Chrome is a fairly good platform, tons of support for all sorts of html extensions, and a very strong commitment to security. It’s a really nice product, except for the strings attached. Alphabet should be broken up and Chrome (OS) spun off into its own business; the…
Broken up by politicians? Ya, hard no. Just stop using it! Stop forcing your choices on people. No one has to use chrome, google search, gmail, etc. There are alternatives to all your problems, open source ones too.
The government is chosen by the people and enforced by their choice to make decisions. A company without control is cancer. Just look at Nestle, Facebook and Google and plenty of others abusing their size and that people are NOT rational entities en masse. A government should (and they are the only thing that can) step up against these abuses.
Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox
#445Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you name a few consumer-level boycotts in, say, the last 50 years, which actually accomplished their goals?
They didn't suggest a boycott. Each individual consumer decision makes a difference in aggregate. Every failed business in history is a result of consumer decisions away from what they have to offer, so I don't particularly understand that rationale.
People are “easy” to manipulate, especially when your control reaches basically every aspect of their life. Hiding/downplaying few articles here, shoving another into my face there with an opaque algorithm will achieve basically anything over a long time.
Also, you underestimate the effect of laziness. A company really has to do some atrocious thing to result in people leaving its services. Like, what would make the average person change from Gmail? He/she may not even know that 1) it is part of google which should be avoided now 2) what are alternative email providers 3) the whole change requires quite the technical know how.
It is simply naive to expect that “the market will solve it” to work in the general case. Competition only works when there are strict rules. Otherwise, the strongest/least fair player wins, and that’s why monopolies have to be broken up.
Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox
#446Earlier quoted context omitted.
Funny, I see the possible future differently. I am inclined to predict that the option to use ad blockers may come to an end because browsers and other software financed with online ad-derived revenue have full control over what extensions users are allowed to run. They have full control over that system for extending the functionality of their software. Whereas the system for supplying software with IP addresses sho…
> I am inclined to predict that the option to use ad blockers may come to an end because browsers and other software financed with online ad-derived revenue have full control over what extensions users are allowed to run. They have full control over that system for extending the functionality of their software. I have a feeling that if Chrome (for instance) went that route it would quickly become Internet Explorer'd.…
That worked back then. Ten years ago, browsers were, compared to today, ridiculously simple and thus could easily be replaced. I wouldn't be surprised if today's Chrome had more LoC than Linux in 2010.
Also, the mobile platform might be a good indicator of what ordinary people are willing to put up with. Chrome doesn't support extensions there, so everybody and their uncle is browsing the web with the full ad experience. I've never seen a non-tech savvy person use Firefox, or just anything but chrome (or the system browser), on an Android device, which easily allows to install uBO. Yet on the desktop somehow even those people somehow learned to install uBO or ABP. It appears that "apparently you cannot do this on your phone" is an acceptable answer to most people.
Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox
#447I've been a daily user and advocate of Firefox since Opera changed to using Chromium. But recently I've grown tired of their privacy hypocrisy and company decisions that I've uninstalled it and started to try out Edge/Brave/Vivaldi as my daily. It has pained me to do this as FF was my last safe haven away from Chromium. If you dig into some settings and follow tech news, I have begun to question some of Mozilla's con…
> 5) this result: https://brave.com/brave-tops-browser-first-run-network-traff... . While it was from 2019 so needs to be updated, but upon first-run I was shocked at the results for FF here.
The article states: "Firefox remains one of the chattiest browsers during a first run. At 117 requests, it lead the pack with individual requests. It should be noted, however, that this isn’t the browser itself making all of these calls, but another page that is present during startup."
So it seems that the initial page is the thing making most of the network calls, and not the browser itself. Wouldn't this mean that we can simply disable the wi-fi/internet temporarily to load the browser initially, closing unnecessary tabs, and customizing it as we needed?
In general, this seems like a good practice for opening up apps in general, even though it's a minor inconvenience and we theoretically shouldn't have to do this. Anyway, I don't mind the telemetry if it will help and not be used against us.
Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox
#448I have difficulties understanding why everyone's using Chrome-based browsers, when it's obvious how bad they are for privacy.
Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox
#449I have difficulties understanding why everyone's using Chrome-based browsers, when it's obvious how bad they are for privacy.
Many people do not really care about privacy or are not convinced that Firefox is significantly better.
Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox
#450I have difficulties understanding why everyone's using Chrome-based browsers, when it's obvious how bad they are for privacy.
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