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Post by AnimalMuppet »

michaelcampbell wrote: post #208
dr_dshiv wrote: post #53

Because Prince Charles is heir to the throne (and has been portrayed more negatively in the news media than any other living person), some in the HN community may be surprised to know that he wrote a book on philosophy . https://www.amazon.com/Harmony-New-Way-Looking-World/dp/0061... I found the book to be astonishingly good. It takes a design approach to Platonism and western esotericism. It goes deep into "sacred g…

> and has been portrayed more negatively in the news media than any other living person Uhm, what?

Yeah. Some guy named Trump would like a word about being portrayed negatively...

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Post by myrandomcomment »

alistairSH wrote: post #200
TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Queen holds a weekly audience with the Prime Minister. It's unlikely they make chitchat about the weather. The monarch also vets laws while they're being drafted and can make suggestions for changes if they affect their interests. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/feb/08/royals-vette... The Queen isn't just the head of the armed forces - they swear an oath of loyalty directly to the Monarch, not to the peo…

The Queen isn't just the head of the armed forces - they swear an oath of loyalty directly to the Monarch... Interestingly (to me, anyways) is the oath is made directly to Queen Elizabeth by name, not to the crown in general. And isn't made by officers in the Royal Navy, because the navy wasn't created by act of Parliament, but by royal prerogative, so their fealty is assumed.

It is worth noting that when the Queen passes, parliament will be called back in to session, if it is not already, and each minister will retake their oath swearing allegiance to the new King.

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Post by zepto »

Balero wrote: post #209
bengale wrote: post #146

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It feels like the better way to do it tbh. The PM gets the benefit of her experience without having the media use her words to beat him with if he choses a different direction.

Or a better way for a very wealthy person with far more power and influence than the average person to, in secret, lobby the leader of the government. Frankly I would rather have this lobbying out in the open where it can be held accountable.

“A very wealthy person” is a weird way to reduce her to nothing.

She is also the only person in the world who has the experience of a weekly conversation with the last 14 prime ministers of Britain. She is the embodiment of the state’s institutional memory.

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Post by PraetorianGourd »

alistairSH wrote: post #390
alistairSH wrote: post #250

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The actual oath is something like "I swear ... to Queen Elizabeth, and her heirs, ..." I ASSuMEd the oath would more like "I swear ... to the Crown ..." But, if the Queen is in fact the Crown (as stated by a different response), then I suppose it's a distinction without a difference.

Not sure why the downvotes, the actual oath is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_of_Allegiance_(United_Kin... I don't think I misrepresented it in any way.

You are getting down-voted, most likely, because of your "ASSuMEd" comment. It doesn't add to the conversation and detracts from what you were saying.

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Post by myrandomcomment »

DanBC wrote: post #188
philistine wrote: post #98

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I argue that because she focused so hard on being seen positively that she hurt the monarchy in the long run. Her son has nowhere to go but down. She also forced the British Supreme Court to invent the idea that advice given to her can be unlawful, and did not stay out of politics as you said: she was laser-focused on making sure her privileges and money didn’t get touched by denying Queen’s consent. https://www.theg…

She didn't have to wear seatbelts on public roads through her property. The Queen cannot be prosecuted in England.

She also does not need a drivers license, etc. as they are all issued in her name.

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Post by bot41 »

Weird to see all the non-pro Royal family comments censored on here. Why? What has the royal family got to do with Hacker News and why does it matter if people on here are pro or anti Philip?

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Post by callamdelaney »

bot41 wrote: post #446

Weird to see all the non-pro Royal family comments censored on here. Why? What has the royal family got to do with Hacker News and why does it matter if people on here are pro or anti Philip?

Most of those comments are / were vitriolic. Basically attacking Prince Philip because of status rather than any legitimate criticism of him as a person. I'd guess this is why - it's not facebook.

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Post by krapp »

maccard wrote: post #415
fastball wrote: post #339

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They can leave whenever they want. Golden handcuffs are not actual handcuffs.

No, they can't. See Harry & Meghan for what happens when you leave.

>See Harry & Meghan for what happens when you leave.

You stay rich, wealthy and influential and parlay your newfound celebrity into millions of dollars' worth of streaming media and book deals?

Oh no wait, sorry, they're just wealthy now but no longer obscenely wealthy. The horror.

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Post by fastball »

toomanybeersies wrote: post #367
fastball wrote: post #339

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They can leave whenever they want. Golden handcuffs are not actual handcuffs.

> They can leave whenever they want. Not to imply equivalence in magnitude, but people say say the same about people trapped in abusive relationships.

Um, not sure what you're trying to do here. People saying the same thing about two different situations does not in any way make the situations similar or equivalent, and the fact that you are even making the connection is kinda gross tbh.
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