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Re: IPFS Support in Brave

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Post by dartharva »

undefined1 wrote: post #99
agilob wrote: post #40

Mozilla promised us Tor integration, IPFS integration and more private browsing by default. Brave delivered it all.

Mozilla seems to be moving in the other direction now. "We need more than deplatforming" https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2021/01/08/we-need-more-than-d...

Well, Brave leadership isn't that subtle either. Here's Brendan getting salty over Gab's attempted fork of Brave: https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/1118705815127347200.

I guess we should simply ignore these political endorsements and only take the functional utility into account when choosing browsers.

Re: IPFS Support in Brave

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Post by dartharva »

I tried switching to Brave, it just doesn't feel right to me. It felt too bloated and actually performed slower on my machine on most sites than Firefox.

I'm also not comfortable with Brave's attitude towards forks of its browser. afaik, two of the main forks (Braver/Bold and Gab's Dissenter) were bullied into obscurity by Brave's management. Here's Brendan being overly salty towards Dissenter: https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/1118705815127347200

Re: IPFS Support in Brave

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Post by Draken93 »

ajsnigrutin wrote: post #428
Draken93 wrote: post #399

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe that we passed a controversial discourse, when a certain group of people decided to ignore all reasonable arguments, to ignore sience. This is not about shutting down all controversial discourse. It is about "defend[ing] a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant". Surpression shall only happen if there is no other way to defend a tolerant society cause the intolerant are working with (massi…

But how do you know who is a 'freedom fighter' and who is a 'terrorist' then? Do you let google and facebook decide? Look, an "Anti soviet warrior", "on the road to peace" - https://www.businessinsider.com/1993-independent-article-abo...

As I already wrote: That's exactly what I am worried about. I do believe that tech-companies are not the right instance to make those decisions.

But: There is noone else, who is able to control the growing beast of social networks that they created. And in parts they can not control it either. There are too many languages used, that no employee or AI understands.

In the end we are darned to watch and hope they make the correct decisions.

Re: IPFS Support in Brave

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Post by LegitShady »

SulfurHexaFluri wrote: post #300
undefined1 wrote: post #99

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Mozilla seems to be moving in the other direction now. "We need more than deplatforming" https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2021/01/08/we-need-more-than-d...

I wonder why Mozilla even bothers with these kinds of posts. I doubt a single person in the world cares about getting political opinions from their web browser so these kinds of posts just dirty their image.

It's even worse than that - it makes me less able to trust Mozilla because Mozilla wants to make sure they can help me decide what is true or not. That is definitely not Mozilla's job nor do they have that ability. It just tells me they're looking to help control the internet for corporations.

Re: IPFS Support in Brave

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Post by hkt »

xvector wrote: post #372
hkt wrote: post #348

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Iraq seems a little different to an armed invasion of.. the capitol building. No?

One day, people may actually need to invade the Capitol building, but it will never happen because of your eagerness to create an authoritarian state that shuts down all controversial discourse. If we deplatformed every “violent thug” that did something people didn’t like, you would have a fraction of the rights you have today.

Worth pointing out that innocent people were shot and killed and senators were evacuated while they confirmed the election result. It isn't "something I don't like" it is "something reprehensible which cannot under any circumstances be tolerated".

Re: IPFS Support in Brave

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Post by [deleted] »

realdense wrote: post #190
waynesonfire wrote: post #177

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why would mozilla pay to add a fad technology or take on the tech debt?

Some of us believe that the client-server model has led us to the current situation, ruled by internet giants. A future where people are less reliant on giants is within our reach, the biggest hurdle is making it available to the masses. Hopefully uptake by non-mainstream browsers like Brave will increase the exposure, attract developers, increase the network and get us closer to having IPFS, Hypercore or some other…

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Re: IPFS Support in Brave

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Post by caycep »

wolverine876 wrote: post #152
jonathansampson wrote: post #91

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We have quite a few engineers whose roots lie within, or have passed through, Mozilla. We even have several engineers and team members who pioneered much of the Web at Netscape and prior :)

Are you sure you want to participate in a discussion badmouthing Mozilla? You're not directly saying those things, but you are taking part in the dialog. That sort of behavior makes me pretty angry about Brave. Focus on Brave. You have nothing to do with Mozilla.

Partly, also as a user interested in the future of software we depend on, and also the "kremlinology" of the thing. True or no, it's Eich's assertion that Mozilla is top-heavy, and they certainly haven't been able to keep up with the Chrome variants technically. Long term, the interest is whether Mozilla's vs Brave's approach will give a viable browser alternative, with incentives aligned with the user, at least relatively speaking, vs. chrome.

Re: IPFS Support in Brave

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Post by w14 »

mikewhy wrote: post #413
mikece wrote: post #69

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That creates a new window per Profile as opposed to just one window with a bunch of tabs, all conceivably in using their own Container, right?

How do you juggle multiple facebook / google / anything accounts in that sort of system?

Each container can be colour coded (up to 8 colours) and each tab is underscored with the same colour, so you can immediately see which is which.

Re: IPFS Support in Brave

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Post by harigov »

Brave is one of my favorite new software of 2020. I love how fast it loads web pages and removes ads. More importantly it’s a huge step forward in terms of fixing web. I am very excited about this Ipfs support. If they also integrate openbazaar with some decentralized currency , that would be incredible!

nit - can you please fix the icon? The color and icon undersell Brave by a huge margin.

Re: IPFS Support in Brave

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Post by happytoexplain »

busterarm wrote: post #430
CyberRabbi wrote: post #304

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If you can effectively cast your political opponents as “terrorists” you can rationalize denying them all sorts of rights and still get to call yourself a supporter of human rights. They did a similar thing during the Iraq war.

I made a litmus test that an alarming number of people I've had recent discussions with cannot pass. Basically it's about whether you can get them to agree with both of the following statements: 1) X-ism should not exist. 2) X-ists have a fundamental right to exist. Point number one is perfectly reasonable as should be point two. The really scary authoritarians flat out deny point number two, but most people will sta…

>Denial of point 2 leads to mass murder of people for thought crime. Still some people seem okay with this.

You're exaggerating. We don't have a real problem with people who want to mass murder people for being X-ists. It's easy to observe the inverse, though.

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