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Apple's MacBook revival plan: Bring back old features

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Re: Apple's MacBook revival plan: Bring back old features

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Post by p_l »

ricardobayes wrote: post #374
p_l wrote: post #260

Earlier quoted context omitted.

on site at a client fresh after they started upgrading people to USB-C/thunderbolt MBPs/Airs... Very quickly meetings started with question of "who has a laptop with real HDMI/DisplayPort? We would like to start in 15s instead of 15 minutes of fighting with dongles..."

Only companies with disfunctional IT departments who didn't bother to install streaming devices to the big screens.

The last reliably streamable setup I've seen involved Plan B, a system built on top of Plan 9, and it was far on the weird side of the universe.

Many "streamable" options often end up actually using HDMI dongles, if working at all. Or work with very limited set of systems (the weird apparently undocumented reverse-RDP for projectors in Windows, intel-proprietary streaming, etc.)

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Post by behnamoh »

BluSyn wrote: post #14

My controversial hot take-- I have never needed an SD card, and have gone all-in on USB-C. I will be very disappointed if they add back in USB-A/HDMI/SD ports, or remove USB-C charging in favor of proprietary charge port. Sounds like unnecessary feature bloat. Please just do MagSage + USB-C, so I can maintain my one-cable-for-everything, making traveling lighter and simpler. Here's my counter argument to all those th…

Yeah, people can be selfish when it comes to ports...

I bet during their market research, Apple had people like you in their focus groups.

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Post by behnamoh »

bebna wrote: post #440
hatchnyc wrote: post #137

I use two MacBooks for programming for several hours each every single day, my personal machine has a touchbar, my work machine does not. I realize this is blasphemous to say and I did think I would hate the touchbar for all the reasons, but I actually ended up liking it. I had imagined myself tapping virtual function buttons and the whole thing seemed silly and useless and worse than having physical keys, but VS Cod…

nobody hates the touchbar, they hate that a row was sacrificed for it, instead of just adding it on top.

Please only speak on your behalf, not “everybody”.

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Post by shrimpx »

yarcob wrote: post #381

The nice thing about my 2015 Macbook Pro is that it's useful without any accessories. I can just throw it in a bag and walk out the door. It's got enough battery life that I usually don't need to bring a charger. It has all the ports that I ever need. I can hook it up to a projector with the built in HDMI port, I can put in the SD card from my camera, or I can quickly copy files from someones thumb drive. I don't nee…

My take is Jony Ive went extreme on form factor and totally lost his grip on users. He wanted an objectively perfect, extremely thin portless wireless machine. Now that he’s gone the design team is descending from the Ivery tower and undoing his work, meeting users halfway again.

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Post by behnamoh »

kube-system wrote: post #401
FractalParadigm wrote: post #218

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All kinds of reasons - my biggest one being why MagSafe was invented in the first place; I know my power cord is run across the living room due to a lack of power outlets in my 70-year-old apartment, and gets tripped over regularly. Not to mention a proprietary charger can free up a USB port for additional peripherals.

Tripping over a power cable was a problem created by a battery life that was shorter than a work day, IMO. I have been charging my M1 Mac at night, like my phone.

Wait a couple years and you can say goodbye to your MBA superb battery capacity. Mine is now at 70% after only 3 years and less than 400 cycles. For all the buzz it receives, Apple does not really provide the highest quality. I’ve concluded that:

“Apple gives you awesome first impression and terrible relationship in the long term.”

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Post by flomo »

Symbiote wrote: post #107
pharmakom wrote: post #102

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If Apple can make a Magsafe cable for USB C that would be the best of both worlds. (I know third parties have made them but Apple would probably do a better implementation) I also can't wait for the removal of the Touchbar. This prevented me from buying previous Macbooks because it was just one compromise too far for such an expensive machine. Is this Apple's "Coke Classic" moment?

Doesn't Apple generally make worse cables than the competition? It is very rare for a PC laptop power cable to break. There's a rubber grommet which protects the cable as it enters the plug from extreme and repeated bending. For supposed aesthetics, Apple don't include this, and their cables fray easily. (This is based on my experience managing hardware for a small organization, Dell/HP/Lenovo/etc business laptops co…

> It is very rare for a PC laptop power cable to break.

The failure was usually the plug breaking loose from the board. (Both on PC laptops and old Powerbooks with the barrel plug.)

Re: Apple's MacBook revival plan: Bring back old features

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Post by oblio »

Arainach wrote: post #380
oblio wrote: post #276

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HDMI will probably be around for TVs, but with USB 4 I imagine we're 5-10 years from most of the current ports going away completely, except for a collection of USB C ports of different levels (3, 3.x, 4).

Other than storage, no peripherals care about USB 4. We can't get away from USB-A because all of the devices that MATTER use it and its variations. Even today no one that I've seen makes a USB-C to USB-Micro (or USB-Mini - yes, I still have multiple products that use that) cable. I have no interest in having to chain multiple adaptors off all my computers for everything I do. Keyboards, mice, printers, cameras, micro…

> Other than storage, no peripherals care about USB 4.

Video??? The comparison was with HDMI.

Also thanks for missing my main point about USB C...

Re: Apple's MacBook revival plan: Bring back old features

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Post by egypturnash »

acjohnson55 wrote: post #4

I've said this in probably a dozen HN comments over the years, but my 2010 MBP is still my favorite computer of all time. It has a matte screen and 4TB of upgradable onboard storage. It was frustrating watching MBPs move progressively farther away from the features I really loved on that machine. Eventually, I jumped ship for the PC world again, where I found the hardware much more inspired. The Airs are already quit…

god I miss matte screens, I really need to find a matte screen cover for my current MBP

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Post by aledalgrande »

Very excited. I got an Intel MBP in 2020, but these models have enough that I am willing to switch. The question is who will buy my maxed out Intel laptop when the M1 is faster and costs less? XD

Also wondering if this new version will have M1X or M2, just a M1 that supports more RAM or an M2 with updated architecture?

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