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New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Re: New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Post by biztos »

thebigspacefuck wrote: post #437
biztos wrote: post #370

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I really wanted to like the Touch Bar for scrubbing, but then I hooked up the external monitor and the Bluetooth magic keyboard and... To this day I can not figure out why Apple doesn’t sell an external Touch Bar of some kind, for use by the actual professional video editors out there.

Have you tried a trackball?

Not recently. Is that commonly used for video?

To be clear, I’m an amateur at video and I do know there are lots of dedicated tools from scrubber dials to keyboards.

The part I can’t figure out is why Apple has this “pro” tech for which the most obvious and most hyped use-case is video editing, but they don’t sell any version of it a professional video editor could actually use.

Re: New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Post by yurishimo »

ksec wrote: post #432
switz wrote: post #66

If anyone from Apple is reading, let me just say – this is exactly what I want. Magsafe charging. Function keys instead of the touchbar. 15-16" screen. M1 CPU. 32GB Memory. I also prefer the 2015 keyboard, but it's not a dealbreaker. I'll pay for the kickstarter now if it means it'll come out in the next 18 months. Please make it happen.

>I also prefer the 2015 keyboard, but it's not a dealbreaker. Well it would be perfect if they could bring that back.

Didn't they already do this though? The mid-2020 MBP got the new keyboard which moved away from the super thin keys and back to a thicker switch. It's still thinner than the 2015 keyboard, but it's the exact same functional design.

Re: New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Post by thefunnyman »

coldtea wrote: post #439
wlesieutre wrote: post #354

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Here's an alternate solution to that problem: build a laptop with 20 hours of battery so that people aren't sitting on the couch with their laptop on the coffee table and a power cord dangling across the living room floor. I don't have an M1 machine, but the impression I get from people is that "Plug it in overnight at your desk and literally don't worry about its battery running out" is a reasonable thing to do now.

> Here's an alternate solution to that problem: build a laptop with 20 hours of battery so that people aren't sitting on the couch with their laptop on the coffee table and a power cord dangling across the living room floor. That's a non-solution, since a large majority of the people will use the laptop on their office desk/home desktop, and prefer to have it plugged in while so.

I’d argue that using the laptop at a desk negates the need for a “yank-proof” charger since in most office situations there’s an outlet near or under the desk. Thus the cable won’t be draped across a walkway where someone might trip on it.

Re: New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Post by ardy42 »

dtwest wrote: post #345
ardy42 wrote: post #320

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> My favorite part of my touchbar MBP is that it uses USB-C charging. MagSafe is neat, but I don't miss the $80 proprietary charger with a cable that's fixed to the brick and will probably fail if you do anything other than leave it sitting at a desk. Magsafe is more than neat, it pretty much solved the major annoyance with laptop power cables (e.g. someone trips on cable, and laptop gets jerked around, eventually da…

I love the design of the MagSafe chargers, you point out a great advantage of them, but sadly they aren't durable. And like the parent comment said, they are expensive. I'm on my second for my current laptop and it's frayed on the end so I'm soon to be on my third. Hopefully a next iteration of MagSafe takes this issue more seriously.

> I love the design of the MagSafe chargers, you point out a great advantage of them, but sadly they aren't durable.

I was only talking about the MagSafe connector, which was genius. I agree that they made a few very poor decisions in other parts of the charger (specifically: the cable itself).

Re: New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Post by sgerenser »

raarts wrote: post #421
killjoywashere wrote: post #318

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Imagine a USB-C compliant version of MagSafe. That would be awesome. not sure if the physics work out (can you efficiently push that many bits through a magnet like that?)

Yes, they exist and I use it. Works quite well.

For data transfer or just charging? I’m sure they work for charging but I think the questioner was wondering if you could actually run 10Gbps through the magnetic adapter.

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Post by nikau »

dont__panic wrote: post #314
nikau wrote: post #142

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Its a hangover for 10 years ago when low end laptop touchpads were pretty bad. I find my carbon X1 touchpad nicer to use than my 15" macpro. Although I am impressed how well they made the haptic tap feel like a real button on the mac.

Gesture support is also incredible on macOS. It's the little things -- if I start the motion to "show desktop" by spreading my fingers apart on the touchpad, windows will seamlessly start the motion with my fingers. If I decide to abort the gesture with my fingers, windows on the screen match my motion exactly. I can also customize gestures like expose, mission control, desktop switching, etc. to my liking by assigni…

Personally I find gesture support annoying and its functions are better done with keyboard shortcuts - if you want to show the desktop pressing windows-D is much quicker and easier. The first thing I do on a new laptop is find the touchpad settings and turn everything off.

I find it ironic that Apple used to push the one button mice narrative as 2 buttons were overwhelming, yet now you are supposed to contort your fingers into doing a million different gestures on a touch pad.

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Post by nikau »

jackson1442 wrote: post #219
nikau wrote: post #142

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Its a hangover for 10 years ago when low end laptop touchpads were pretty bad. I find my carbon X1 touchpad nicer to use than my 15" macpro. Although I am impressed how well they made the haptic tap feel like a real button on the mac.

Bought a mid-tier HP Pavilion recently and cannot _stand_ the touchpad on it. I carry around a USB mouse for that laptop. I largely prefer the mac touchpad because it allows you to click everywhere on the surface, not just the bottom.

HP until recently didn't use precision touch drivers.

When looking for a new laptop it should be the first thing you check in the reviews - if it doesn't have precision touch drivers it goes in the do not buy list.

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Post by thebigspacefuck »

biztos wrote: post #441
thebigspacefuck wrote: post #437

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Have you tried a trackball?

Not recently. Is that commonly used for video? To be clear, I’m an amateur at video and I do know there are lots of dedicated tools from scrubber dials to keyboards. The part I can’t figure out is why Apple has this “pro” tech for which the most obvious and most hyped use-case is video editing, but they don’t sell any version of it a professional video editor could actually use.

Supposedly they are. I don't do any video editing, but it's something that came up a lot when I was looking at trackballs.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/video/hands-review/how-...

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