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Re: AirPods Max

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Post by bognition »

theNJR wrote: post #369
cactus2093 wrote: post #299

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having paid $350 for Bose QC3 headphones 4 years ago, that I use every day but sometimes have to fight with when e.g. my MacBook Pro keeps trying to steal focus even though i shut it and am trying to use the headphones with my phone now, etc. I completely agree. Paying a bit more for something that just works as well as my airpods do, assuming that this delivers, is totally worth it. On top of that, I expect the soun…

I see you’ve never used AirPods between multiple devises. It’s become a lot better in the last year, but that’s only because it started out infuriating. QC3s were much better than AirPods at multi device up until a recent update.

Its wild to see such different experiences. I have QC35s and they've never paired correctly with my iPhone. Part of that, I suspect, is because you have to use the stupid Bose app to pair your BT headphones. Why Bose doesn't let you pair them using the standard system is beyond me.

In the end I only use the QC35s on my laptop which is a total disappointment.

Re: AirPods Max

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Post by tfehring »

eertami wrote: post #113

$549!? That puts it in the same price category as: Sennheiser HD660S, Audeze LCD-1, Beyerdynamic DT1770/1990, Grado RS2e, among many many others. Honestly, I don't understand why you would buy these when there are a lot of established professional audio companies offering better sound at a cheaper price. At least airpods have a unique selling point in their portability and ux but I don't see how this benefits over-ea…

It’s ludicrous but I’m still tempted. It seems like they uniquely offer the best UX in headphones since unlike AirPods you don’t have to intermittently take them off to charge them if you’re using them all day. “The best UX” is assuming you’ve bought into the rest of the Apple ecosystem, of course.

Re: AirPods Max

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Post by ghaff »

hajile wrote: post #289
mrtksn wrote: post #162

Oh, I find it fascinating how the audio gear industry has taught the consumers on how much money you are supposed to spend to have audio experience at certain level. Pay attention on audiophile arguments, they will talk in terms of money(i.e. 150$ headphones vs 500$ headphones) when talking about audio quality. I always find the audiophile market to be borderline fraud. They sell CD demagnetisers, ceramic cable lifte…

There's an exponential curve of cost vs quality. Buying in the bend is best. The difference between a $50 and $200 pair of headphones is staggering. From $200 to $500 is still significant. From $500 to $1000 is extremely slight. From $1000 to $5000 is basically unnoticeable. Apple looks to be using plastic driver cones more at home in a $30 pair of headphones while selling something at the inflection point where head…

That's true of a ton of things in audio, video, and lots of other things. Pros and enthusiasts spend thousands on gear that makes a tiny difference in experience, output quality, etc. It makes sense in some situations. But a lot of people who have the money also just overspend.

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Post by [deleted] »

hajile wrote: post #289
mrtksn wrote: post #162

Oh, I find it fascinating how the audio gear industry has taught the consumers on how much money you are supposed to spend to have audio experience at certain level. Pay attention on audiophile arguments, they will talk in terms of money(i.e. 150$ headphones vs 500$ headphones) when talking about audio quality. I always find the audiophile market to be borderline fraud. They sell CD demagnetisers, ceramic cable lifte…

There's an exponential curve of cost vs quality. Buying in the bend is best. The difference between a $50 and $200 pair of headphones is staggering. From $200 to $500 is still significant. From $500 to $1000 is extremely slight. From $1000 to $5000 is basically unnoticeable. Apple looks to be using plastic driver cones more at home in a $30 pair of headphones while selling something at the inflection point where head…

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Re: AirPods Max

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Post by Eric_WVGG »

eertami wrote: post #113

$549!? That puts it in the same price category as: Sennheiser HD660S, Audeze LCD-1, Beyerdynamic DT1770/1990, Grado RS2e, among many many others. Honestly, I don't understand why you would buy these when there are a lot of established professional audio companies offering better sound at a cheaper price. At least airpods have a unique selling point in their portability and ux but I don't see how this benefits over-ea…

oh, you've heard them already? What do you think of the cups and the band, are they comfortable? What do you think of the crown control?

Re: AirPods Max

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Post by wmeredith »

buildbuildbuild wrote: post #410

Calling an English expert. Is “AirPods Max” singular or plural? Help. The AirPods Max is a headphone. AirPods Max are headphones. I saw two AirPods Maxes.

I think “AirPods Max” would be singular.

AirPods is the product line name. Max is the model. So you have AirPods, AirPods Pro, and AirPods Max. If you needed to buy 10 of these you would say your were buying 10 pairs of AirPods, AirPods Pros, or AirPods Maxes.

Honestly though, it's English we're dealing with, so there are more exceptions than rules, anyway. Muddy the waters further with proper nouns and branding considerations and basically the only people who can tell you what is "right" would be Apple's marketing dept.

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Post by Terrario »

bitexploder wrote: post #144
eertami wrote: post #113

$549!? That puts it in the same price category as: Sennheiser HD660S, Audeze LCD-1, Beyerdynamic DT1770/1990, Grado RS2e, among many many others. Honestly, I don't understand why you would buy these when there are a lot of established professional audio companies offering better sound at a cheaper price. At least airpods have a unique selling point in their portability and ux but I don't see how this benefits over-ea…

How do we know they offer better sound? I’ll wait for some reviews. Apple doesn’t enter a product category like this lightly or without careful price setting analysis. This is almost exactly the reaction people had to AirPods when they were announced.

But the airpods arent good headphones for their price range. They are successful because they are Apple, they offer a baseline quality for people who don’t know better and they offer status.

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Post by jayd16 »

kelp wrote: post #428
eertami wrote: post #113

$549!? That puts it in the same price category as: Sennheiser HD660S, Audeze LCD-1, Beyerdynamic DT1770/1990, Grado RS2e, among many many others. Honestly, I don't understand why you would buy these when there are a lot of established professional audio companies offering better sound at a cheaper price. At least airpods have a unique selling point in their portability and ux but I don't see how this benefits over-ea…

When Apple releases a new product and it’s not understood why people would buy it, I’m always reminded of this quote from former Palm CEO Ed Colligan when the iPhone was launched: “We’ve learned and struggled for a few years here figuring out how to make a decent phone,” he said. “PC guys are not going to just figure this out. They’re not going to just walk in.” Since then I’ve not wanted to bet against Apple. The re…

>Since then I’ve not wanted to bet against Apple.

Counterpoint, we're not all buying $1000 monitor stands and $700 caster wheels. Sometimes Apple is just gouging.

Re: AirPods Max

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Post by bborud »

I've spent a lot of money on earphones over the last 10 years in order to try to find a pair that doesn't suck. Audio quality is perhaps fourth on the list of deciding factors. It doesn't matter how good headphones sound if they are painful to wear, have impractical misfeatures or are too expensive.

If these fit my head and I can wear them for 12 hours straight, they may be worth the money. I'd pay $550 for that.

However, this is Apple. Which means it is likely they will find some clever way of making these headphones obsolete. Or they will break in some unfixable, or expensive to repair, way.

I think I'll pass.

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