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Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored

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Post by TechBro8615 »

bluGill wrote: post #308
throwaway373438 wrote: post #269

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They are suggesting lobbying to change the law, rather than struggling with current law in court.

Don't lobby. go to your local caucus and change it from within. Note that I said Caucus: even in a primary state there is some form of caucus where the party decides things. You want to be in this system, this is where the party platform is decided on. This is where the people who are working behind the scene to elect someone make the plans. In turn this is where politicians go to find people who will work for them.…

This sounds hopelessly naive. At the risk of starting a political flamewar, it’s really not possible for any individual to effect large scale change to policymaking beyond the hyper local level. It’s especially impossible to go against massive lobbying interests like the RIAA.

Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored

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Post by AntiImperialist »

I hope nobody actually believes this had anything to do with what it is made out to be in public (i.e. DMCA violation).

Google owns a LOT of videos on YouTube. The fact that people are able to easily get them out and put it somewhere else threatens them. So, they used their friends to cook up this lawsuit.

Unfortunately for them, this upset a lot of GitHub users and Microsoft didn't want to help Google while taking a hit themselves... so they found a way around it.

Corporations use their legal prowess to advance their bottom line all the time... and many a times, how it's framed in public is very different from what is actually going on.

Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored

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Post by crtasm »

onelovetwo wrote: post #309
paledot wrote: post #230

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If you want to put your everyday Amazon spend to good use, don't spend on Amazon.

Where do I spend it wise one

Books? https://www.ethicalconsumer.org/retailers/shopping-guide/boo...

Other things? Browse the rest of that site.

Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored

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Post by AsyncAwait »

ponker wrote: post #325
ryanar wrote: post #184

It seems like EFF fought for youtube-dl and GitHub used their letter as legal firepower to bring the repo back online. If GitHub were fighting for the developer they would have funded the attorney, right? Though from their blog post it does look like they are taking steps to fund defense in the future as well as other steps to improve the situation. Reading EFFs claim is pretty interesting, they state that saving a c…

When Microsoft and the RIAA square off, the letter of the law isn’t really the battlefield. The battlefield is influence with the US Senate, and the EFF, while well regarded, is a Sancho Panza compared to Microsoft.

Microsoft won't square off with the RIAA since they're part of it.

Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored

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Post by chungus_khan »

disown wrote: post #268
saynay wrote: post #28

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I have become convinced that the RIAA lawyers emerge from their crypts every few years, generating a slew of copystrikes to justify their retainer fee.

They are looking for that one time where people are either not paying attention or are too exhausted to care. What is the saying? We have to win every little battle, but all they have to do is win once. > generating a slew of copystrikes to justify their retainer fee. Considering how they were able to change social media to favor the copyright owners, I'm betting whoever is paying them feels the fees are justified.

> We have to win every little battle, but all they have to do is win once.

"Today we were unlucky, but remember we only have to be lucky once. You will have to be lucky always."

-Provisional IRA after almost assassinating Thatcher in a bombing

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Post by xigency »

nonbirithm wrote: post #417
jtbayly wrote: post #404

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You already have to sign in to view some videos, don’t you? Does YT-dL not have a way to handle those right now?

It does, but it's broken. https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/issues/23860 The developers are not responding to the issue, and from what I understand it is borderline impossible to fix, because there is an entire security team behind the Google login protection. The only workaround is to login with a browser and copy the cookies from it to youtube-dl.

> The only workaround is to login with a browser and copy the cookies from it to youtube-dl.

That's really easy to do with postman.

Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored

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Post by azinman2 »

ffpip wrote: post #286
disown wrote: post #258

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> A million dollars is a million dollars. Not if you are a company worth $1.6 trillion dollars. But that $1 million dollars probably bought them a lot more in free press. To put it into perspective, it would be like someone worth $1.6 million giving a homeless person $1, filming it, putting it on youtube and profiting off of it. > Thanks Microsoft/Github. Is this real? Edit: Of course the downvotes. Not sure if emplo…

> Not if you are a company worth $1.6 trillion dollars. A million dollars is a million dollars even if the company is worth 100 trillion dollars. Expected contribution to legal defense costs of developers - $0 Current contribution for legal defense costs of developers- $1 million

Ya but $1MM for a generic legal defense fund created and thus owned by GitHub (read: Microsoft) is pretty neutered. I’m sure their lawyers charge between $200-750/hr (pretty standard for a decent lawyer), so $1MM isn’t going to go very far. If they employ lawyers full time for this at 200-500k/yr, there won’t be many working on this team for very long.

Defending a medium complexity case against a deep picker (RIAA) will easy surpass that, and that’s just a single case.

The question is how can this be sustainable and not a trivial token?

Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored

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Post by edoceo »

schoolornot wrote: post #216
evilduck wrote: post #173

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Creating or providing a tool and using a tool are not the same action. Likewise, since there are legal fair use scenarios of copyrighted materials (short clips, criticism, satire, academic, etc) so even using the tool isn't inherently against the law and the person creating or providing the tools can't know and legally doesn't need to know the end user's intentions. Copyright lawyers working for the highest profile a…

Drug paraphernalia is still a crime in most places. Not sure what the equal to "spice grinder" here is.

Anna Purna in Berkeley, CA used to have this sign: "these are water pipes not Bongs! You will be asked to leave" (c1995)
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