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Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by bartvk »

spenvo wrote: post #249

PSA: Big Sur forgets where apps' windows are when plugging back into an external display https://developer.apple.com/forums/thread/651131?answerId=64... https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/jt0gjk/big_sur_forge... I've been on the public beta of Big Sur for months (and issued Feedback Assistant bug reports on this). As of 11.0.1, there's still a dealbreaker bug for people who use external monitors. If you unplug a…

I use Amethyst, as advised by another commenter here. It places and sizes windows automatically. Crazy good.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by bromuro »

lukifer wrote: post #130

Twice bitten, thrice shy. Every MacOS upgrade for the past 5+ years has been a bag of hurt: regressions in functionality and stability, annoying "features" like Notification Center and Catalina warning nags, various PITAs on fixing UNIX/dev toolchains, all for little to no benefit. I've stopped upgrading all my machines (other than security updates), unless forced by a mission-critical app or a new machine.

I am one of those that likes to keep my mac updated to latest. I never have been hit by a problem when upgrading in the last 5 years so i have still full confidence on this one :)

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by devcpp »

SAI_Peregrinus wrote: post #211
enriquto wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Just lost a few hundred Tabs from last session This is horrifying! How do you get to have one hundred tabs, or worse, a few hundred ?

Tabs store context (history, cookies, container, etc, with tree-style tabs also parent & child tab relations) that bookmarks don't. I'm not sure about Safari (since I don't use a Mac) but on Firefox you can set up tab discarding (via extension) that unloads unused tabs. So there's a lot less incentive to use bookmarks when you can just leave a tab open forever. Really the only reason to use bookmarks instead of tabs…

Firefox is so good for this even after e10s, it's not even comparable.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by alwillis »

thiht wrote: post #166
jkelleyrtp wrote: post #18

Just want to put here that if you're using a Mac and haven't tried Safari recently, you're missing out. A few things: - Battery life is fantastic compared to Chrome/FF - Privacy seems to be top-notch - The tab ordering situation is now chrome-like (my biggest gripe in older versions of safari) - Experimental features are 1 click away, easily enable/disable WebGL2 - Support for the WebExtensions standard means addons…

> - Actually decent dev tools (used to be terrible) As a daily user of Safari, I can't let you say that. The devtools suck. The network tools suck (why is it so hard to find the request payload??), the elements tools suck, there are basically no extensions (React, Redux, etc.). They are just horrible. As much as I try to use only Safari, I still fallback on Firefox Dev when I need some real devtools. I use it for the…

The only time I've seen rendering issues with Safari was on early versions of Catalina but that was true of a lot of apps back then. I blame how sucky Catalina was for the first few releases.

In the latest versions of Catalina and on Big Sur, Safari has been rock solid; none of these issues.

Again, no issues with CSS Grid either.

Igalia (https://www.igalia.com) implemented CSS Grid for both Webkit and Blink; they had more commits to Webkit and Blink than anyone else except Apple and Google.

It's not clear why there would be major differences between the two…

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by Dylan16807 »

pkamb wrote: post #301
jkelleyrtp wrote: post #18

Just want to put here that if you're using a Mac and haven't tried Safari recently, you're missing out. A few things: - Battery life is fantastic compared to Chrome/FF - Privacy seems to be top-notch - The tab ordering situation is now chrome-like (my biggest gripe in older versions of safari) - Experimental features are 1 click away, easily enable/disable WebGL2 - Support for the WebExtensions standard means addons…

You can still only open about 15 tabs, after which the Safari tab bar turns into a completely unusable horizontally-scrolling list. Chrome solved this a decade ago... just keep shrinking the tabs down to Favicon size or smaller. Safari just added Favicon images last year, and I don't even think they're visible by default. --- EDIT: Favicon-only compact tabs to have actually been changed/added in Safari 14 for Big Sur…

> Chrome solved this a decade ago... just keep shrinking the tabs down to Favicon size or smaller. Safari just added Favicon images last year, and I don't even think they're visible by default.

Don't give them too much credit. For a very long time, the minimum size for chrome tabs resulted in them hiding the favicon, becoming a completely useless row of triangles. And to add insult to injury, the tabs were still big enough to show favicons if they wanted to.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by chrisked »

Installing failed three times in a row (2/12, 6/12, 9/12gb). Still on latest Catalina but most apps don't load after restart. Every other minute my Mac stops working for a few seconds. Guess will stop work and check back tomorrow morning.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by taurath »

thiht wrote: post #166
jkelleyrtp wrote: post #18

Just want to put here that if you're using a Mac and haven't tried Safari recently, you're missing out. A few things: - Battery life is fantastic compared to Chrome/FF - Privacy seems to be top-notch - The tab ordering situation is now chrome-like (my biggest gripe in older versions of safari) - Experimental features are 1 click away, easily enable/disable WebGL2 - Support for the WebExtensions standard means addons…

> - Actually decent dev tools (used to be terrible) As a daily user of Safari, I can't let you say that. The devtools suck. The network tools suck (why is it so hard to find the request payload??), the elements tools suck, there are basically no extensions (React, Redux, etc.). They are just horrible. As much as I try to use only Safari, I still fallback on Firefox Dev when I need some real devtools. I use it for the…

Still no webm support on mobile is awful :(

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by arduinomancer »

jkelleyrtp wrote: post #18

Just want to put here that if you're using a Mac and haven't tried Safari recently, you're missing out. A few things: - Battery life is fantastic compared to Chrome/FF - Privacy seems to be top-notch - The tab ordering situation is now chrome-like (my biggest gripe in older versions of safari) - Experimental features are 1 click away, easily enable/disable WebGL2 - Support for the WebExtensions standard means addons…

It's silly but I can't stand using Safari because the bookmarks bar doesn't show favicons.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by tambourine_man »

thiht wrote: post #166
jkelleyrtp wrote: post #18

Just want to put here that if you're using a Mac and haven't tried Safari recently, you're missing out. A few things: - Battery life is fantastic compared to Chrome/FF - Privacy seems to be top-notch - The tab ordering situation is now chrome-like (my biggest gripe in older versions of safari) - Experimental features are 1 click away, easily enable/disable WebGL2 - Support for the WebExtensions standard means addons…

> - Actually decent dev tools (used to be terrible) As a daily user of Safari, I can't let you say that. The devtools suck. The network tools suck (why is it so hard to find the request payload??), the elements tools suck, there are basically no extensions (React, Redux, etc.). They are just horrible. As much as I try to use only Safari, I still fallback on Firefox Dev when I need some real devtools. I use it for the…

You’re so right. It used to be great, the nightly WebKit build still uses the old one, I think.

But I now use Safari for browsing and Chrome for developing, ever since they destroyed it.

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