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city41 wrote: post #366
yholio wrote: post #129

The life time of TVs is simply on a different time scale than most smart thingies you connect to them. It's an appliance like the air conditioner or dishwasher, not a gadget you throw into the bin and replace. The intelligence of your media center should be elsewhere, in a dedicated gadget that you can easily replace and upgrade, connected via a standard, dumb interface like HDMI. I own a 2012, 60" Sony Bravia and th…

I have a 1080p Vizio from about 2013 or so. It's "smart", but doesn't phone home or anything. I use a Roku to get more modern apps for it (I block Roku's phoning home in my pihole). I've considered upgrading to 4K many times. But I take comfort in knowing the TV I have now is not screwing me over. The thought of having to thoroughly research the TVs of today is enough for me to stick with it. Heck, my eyes probably c…

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Post by Kipters »

pixxel wrote: post #404
Kipters wrote: post #76

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That's exactly what I've been doing with my 2019 Samsung TV and and a Shield Pro. The TV is unplugged from the internet and all my streaming is done from the Shield, which is even better because: 1. The Netflix/Prime Video etc apps are snappier because of the beefier SoC 2. Content looks better, because DLSS does a better job at upscaling than the TV's native upscaler 3. I can use it to stream games from my PC, which…

Re. point 3. Have you streamed yet or it’s just an option right now? Something I’m considering but I’ve not looked into. Wondering about lag, and if I have to run upstairs to my pc to start games etc.

Tried just once (the whole setup is rather new). I tried the first part of Hellblade running on my PC, which is in the same room, at 1440p & High settings. I played for about half an hour, with no noticeable glitches or lag. Both the PC and the Shield are connected using cables (each to a different switch, both switches go directly to the router).

I hope I have time to try it more before the weekend, but the results are promising.

Oh, I thought it was obvious since we're talking about a Shield Pro but now I think it's worth mentioning that my PC has a Nvidia card (an RTX2060), so I'm using nvidia's native streaming support. It's also worth noting that an OSS client exists (Moonlight), so the Shield could be replaced by, say, a Raspberry Pi 4

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Post by echelon »

We can kill advertising.

It may not work for the smart tv case, but I imagine a device or filter program that I can plug in that detects ads with a neutral network. It wouldn't turn off the ads, but instead transform them into unpleasant imagery that creates incredibly negative brand images. It would be designed to permanently subconsciously tarnish a brand.

McDonald's human trafficking

Nike genocide

Spouse-beating Walmart

Coca-cola rotten corpse

I want to deploy this widely to destroy advertising. If ads got detected and replaced with images designed to embed and evoke negative reactions, advertisers would stop.

We need something this drastic to fight back.

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Post by quit32 »

nelaboras wrote: post #420
auggierose wrote: post #172

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Just buy an Apple TV, and then whatever TV you like.

Well, try to buy a high end non-smart TV. Near impossible

Just don't connect it to the internet.

Also great solution for cheap subsidized TVs where they are banking on your connecting to your network so only charge $100.

Plug in an apple TV and you are set.

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Post by mywittyname »

Nbox9 wrote: post #396
cced wrote: post #300

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This is not the solution. Adding a PiHole to your network is not the solution. Disabling features in other places of your network is not the solution. What if Samsung decides that it will try to connect to open networks for updates or what not? What then? Ask your neighbour to install PiHole on his network? No. This is an example of a game of cat and mouse that shouldn't exist - you pay money for a TV and that's not…

I’m concerned that in the future devices I do not want to be connected to the internet (let my TV) will come with 5g or some other technology and be able to connect itself. I think with IoT and a desire for ease of setup this might be possible if the price of mobile internet drops enough.

Automobiles already do this without your input.

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Post by quit32 »

brulard wrote: post #349
auggierose wrote: post #172

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Just buy an Apple TV, and then whatever TV you like.

I have ads on my Apple TV, don't you? Some movie trailers running in the background that I really don't want to see. And every time I miss-swipe somehow the Apple TV remote in an application, I get to that "home" screen watching another movie trailer :|

As mentioned at the end of the original article, you can disable the apple TV recommendations.

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Post by mikeyjk »

at-fates-hands wrote: post #417
reaperducer wrote: post #363

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Or make the X button almost the same color as the background. TuneIn does this.

There are a ton of dark patterns in web design about this. - same color background - in the wrong corner (users expect the "X" in the upper right hand corner). I've seen the "X" in the wrong corner and some other icon in the right hand corner. People reflexive will click in the upper right hand corner and open the ad by mistake - I've seen where you have to click on text instead of the "X", clicking on the "X" just o…

An overlay that covers the whole area opening an add onClick. After some time the overlay is added again (incredibly annoying for video players you might want to pause)

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Post by dfxm12 »

tangjurine wrote: post #167
avian wrote: post #122

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In some stupid meeting somewhere: A: ...and in conclusion, it's a win-win situation. Users will benefit from ads and our revenue will go up. B: People don't like ads on their TV. A: But they do. I refer you to slides 18 through 25 where you can see engagement metrics for our ad rollout on the old model. If people wouldn't like ads they wouldn't be clicking on them so much . B: I don't like ads. Do you like ads on you…

We're in the middle of transitioning from making decisions based on pure intuition to being purely logical and data-driven... I wonder if that's such a good idea. There was this article a while back I read that talked about how native peoples made poisonous foods edible. Some processes were extremely convoluted and unreasonable, but it worked, and efforts by a "reasonable" man to make the process more efficient would…

It would be more correct to say that today, decisions are being based on increasing short term gain. I think that's the issue more so than transitioning decision making to be based on logic and data and also supports your conclusion about the economy better.

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Post by tootie »

nelaboras wrote: post #420
auggierose wrote: post #172

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Just buy an Apple TV, and then whatever TV you like.

Well, try to buy a high end non-smart TV. Near impossible

Maybe not an economical choice but you can buy digital signage displays. They are typically more expensive but are built for maximum durability and don't include consumer features like streaming.
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