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Only 9% of visitors give GDPR consent to be tracked

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Re: Only 9% of visitors give GDPR consent to be tracked

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DockerHub uses a company/product called "TrustArc: TRUSTe" and they have _exactly_ this method. The slowdown is intentional. People who come up with sort of tactics and those who implement them should go to jail. It's beyond infuriating. I've decided to not upload my images to dockerhub because of this. Edit: jail time is not for anger obviously, but for intentionally swindling people. It'll be handled on a case by c…

Since your edit seems to be taking the jail suggestion seriously: I think the data-money analogy isn't unreasonable, but you're overloading "swindle" pretty heavily here, in a way that defeats your point. Companies and people "swindle" others out of money all the time with dark patterns, and this predates computing by ten thousand years. Caveat emptor exists for a reason: the legal system is just too inflexible a too…

I’m not a lawyer.

If memory serves me, the EU does not Operate on the same legal framework as the US, so the assumptions I hear here: that the exact letter of the law they’re suggesting is worrying, is not How it works in the EU. They also don’t use case law to define exactly how something will be dealt with.

It’s a lot more fluid and ‘spirit of the law’y there.

I think.

Re: Only 9% of visitors give GDPR consent to be tracked

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What really drives me crazy are prompts that start by showing two options: "Consent to all cookies", or "customize". If you click "customize", it opens a new modal window with a loading indicator that just doesn't seem to finish. I literally waited 60 seconds and then tried again by refreshing the page, ending up with another infinite loading indicator. This means that users are de-factor forced to click "consent to…

Just tried that (twice) - it took literally a fraction of second to open. Probably it was a temporary issue?

Re: Only 9% of visitors give GDPR consent to be tracked

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It's clear, that the GDPR should be amended so the only way that tracking will be allowed is to have user send a notary signed letter every year saying that s/he wants to be tracked with a minimum 3 pages of attachment explanation why tracking is so great (in own words, no templates allowed). The company will be required to keep physical copies of these letters for 10 years for random checkups. Fuck the adtech indust…

dont you like personalized ad's? btw. I do not get the adtech industry either, most of these targeted ads are definitiv not in my favor.

I don't, the only times that I clicked on ads was by accident or site did some shenanigans to make me click on it. I absolutely never bought anything based on ad on site.

Re: Only 9% of visitors give GDPR consent to be tracked

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What really drives me crazy are prompts that start by showing two options: "Consent to all cookies", or "customize". If you click "customize", it opens a new modal window with a loading indicator that just doesn't seem to finish. I literally waited 60 seconds and then tried again by refreshing the page, ending up with another infinite loading indicator. This means that users are de-factor forced to click "consent to…

I know exactly which prompt you’re talking about, it’s very common around the web. Unfortunately, the only solution I found that fixes it is disabling ad and tracker blockers. They seem to break that prompt, though if you set them to be very aggressive, the prompt disappears altogether.

The solution is to fix your ad-blocker. Any good one will also block the consent management garbage from loading to begin with. uBlock Origin with all the "annoyances" lists enabled will block them all according to my experience.

Re: Only 9% of visitors give GDPR consent to be tracked

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Causing you to get angry is all it takes to warrant justification for jail time in your eyes? I am thankful you aren't in charge of any lawmaking.

Jail time is probably the only suitable enough deterrent for adtech nightmares. Fines are just treated as a cost of doing business expense, and doesn't directly even hurt the terrible people making these decisions. When someone commits a wrong, the punishment is in part based on the amount of harm. You might feel that adtech causes small harms, if you look at harm against an individual, but adtech folks harm billions…

That just means you need fines proportionate to wealth, not fixed numbers.

A truly useful penalty would be to forbid them from owning any capital (directly, or indirectly like via a trust or index funds).

Re: Only 9% of visitors give GDPR consent to be tracked

#446

What really drives me crazy are prompts that start by showing two options: "Consent to all cookies", or "customize". If you click "customize", it opens a new modal window with a loading indicator that just doesn't seem to finish. I literally waited 60 seconds and then tried again by refreshing the page, ending up with another infinite loading indicator. This means that users are de-factor forced to click "consent to…

Reminds me of trying to opt out of DAA ads[1]

I have never had much luck using it. I just tried now to see if it's different I managed to successfully opt out of 10 / 123. Clearly intentional or all these billion dollar ad companies are running their servers on broken raspberry pis.

[1] - https://optout.aboutads.info

Re: Only 9% of visitors give GDPR consent to be tracked

#447

What really drives me crazy are prompts that start by showing two options: "Consent to all cookies", or "customize". If you click "customize", it opens a new modal window with a loading indicator that just doesn't seem to finish. I literally waited 60 seconds and then tried again by refreshing the page, ending up with another infinite loading indicator. This means that users are de-factor forced to click "consent to…

You can't take someone's lifeline away and act surprised when they try to get around it. Of course websites will do what they can to remain viable.

Advertising doesn't depend on tracking users, please stop spreading this incorrect idea.

Re: Only 9% of visitors give GDPR consent to be tracked

#448

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know exactly which prompt you’re talking about, it’s very common around the web. Unfortunately, the only solution I found that fixes it is disabling ad and tracker blockers. They seem to break that prompt, though if you set them to be very aggressive, the prompt disappears altogether.

The solution is to fix your ad-blocker. Any good one will also block the consent management garbage from loading to begin with. uBlock Origin with all the "annoyances" lists enabled will block them all according to my experience.

That’s what I meant by “setting to aggressive”, though I should’ve been more clear on that.

Re: Only 9% of visitors give GDPR consent to be tracked

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What really drives me crazy are prompts that start by showing two options: "Consent to all cookies", or "customize". If you click "customize", it opens a new modal window with a loading indicator that just doesn't seem to finish. I literally waited 60 seconds and then tried again by refreshing the page, ending up with another infinite loading indicator. This means that users are de-factor forced to click "consent to…

If I can't opt out in two clicks, I leave the website and click the next search result.

Yeah, but that's kind of a pity if this one was the official documentation...

Re: Only 9% of visitors give GDPR consent to be tracked

#450

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DockerHub uses a company/product called "TrustArc: TRUSTe" and they have _exactly_ this method. The slowdown is intentional. People who come up with sort of tactics and those who implement them should go to jail. It's beyond infuriating. I've decided to not upload my images to dockerhub because of this. Edit: jail time is not for anger obviously, but for intentionally swindling people. It'll be handled on a case by c…

> The slowdown is intentional. Yes, it appears to be. If you check the network tab of your browser, you see it makes about 8 requests. Then it waits for about 5-10 seconds and makes again 5 requests.

I think there should be some sort of public shaming for shady practices like this, so large companies like Oracle would seriously consider alternatives.
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