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Re: Mozilla VPN

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Post by raxxorrax »

toyg wrote: post #330
mike_d wrote: post #311

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> compromising foreign VPN services is within the NSA's wheelhouse This is the explicit danger of VPN providers. Even if the provider is not complicit (which I believe applies to the likes of Mozilla), it still creates a centralized aggregation site for collection. I'm not even sure a US-based VPN provider is safe. GCHQ just conducts the interception and would share the data with NSA. At that point, you are at the me…

> I'm not even sure a US-based VPN provider is safe. Oh, I am sure that it is not safe, thanks to the PATRIOT Act. Even if they were not storing any metadata, VPN providers can be compelled to 1) share all data about their subscribers, which will include you, then 2) silently wiretap and decrypt everything. US courts will rubber-stamp, as they've consistently done in the past, and "that's all, folks". Sadly it's not…

That would still create protections for people outside the US but with US-friendly administrations. Using a VPN in less US-friendly nation could increase protection. Is it safe? Probably not. Is it safer? Most likely.

Re: Mozilla VPN

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Post by acd »

I also want to subscribe to Mozilla. For viewing Mozilla as a foundation that does the right thing. Thankful for many of the Internet standards Mozilla helped develop.

Please help making Internet decentralized and private again.

* Support for paying content creators without advertising * Decentralized CDN and compute * fast privacy

Re: Mozilla VPN

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Post by catwell »

saurik wrote: post #381
afiori wrote: post #299

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The point of these discussions is that the standard (IMAP specifically) is inadequate to a lot of modern use. One good thing that Fastmail is doing is promoting a REST-like IMAP alternative ( https://jmap.io/ ) that makes it easier[1] to go back to the distinction application/protocol. [1] by this I mean that implementing an app like gmail over IMAP would be a terrible idea, while JMAP would be at least a bit better…

What, exactly, do you feel is deficient about IMAP vs. JMAP, other than the latter being a protocol that doesn't require a bespoke parser? The only thing even remotely semi-annoying about IMAP that I can think of is the way message identifiers are per-connection (but in some very important way that actually makes sense).

The push mechanism, for one.

IMAP has one (two actually, IDLE and NOTIFY) but they are not really adapted to the way we use email today (mobile and browser-based apps).

Re: Mozilla VPN

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Post by pixxel »

notRobot wrote: post #5
RandomBacon wrote: post #2

It uses Mullvad, and is the same price as Mullvad. I am assuming Mozilla gets a cut. When my current Mullvad subscription expires, I will switch over.

Indeed. Can someone explain why it's not available outside of the US, though? I don't see the logic behind that.

So they can test/ramp up infrastructure rather than open the service up to 8 billion potential customers, and not upset existing customer base.

Re: Mozilla VPN

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Post by bioipbiop »

closeparen wrote: post #140
r3trohack3r wrote: post #111

Every time someone mentions a VPN provider in my techie social circles, the "A VPN doesn't protect you" crowd piles in, usually with links to something like: https://gist.github.com/joepie91/5a9909939e6ce7d09e29 I don't understand this argument, but would like to. I run https://everytwoyears.org , a political non-profit focused on ending the warrantless metadata collection of U.S. citizens' communications. From every…

A VPN is just a tunnel from one point to another. You'd have to establish why the remote end is more trustworthy than the local end. Being located in a hostile jurisdiction may be somewhat protective, but it would also seem likely that compromising foreign VPN services is within the NSA's wheelhouse.

Might reduce chances of prosecution if they’d have to reveal the compromised a particular VPN to convict.

Re: Mozilla VPN

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Post by mywacaday »

godzillabrennus wrote: post #243
lilyball wrote: post #173

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How about FastMail? They have a stellar email service. They also offer contacts and calendars, though I don't personally use those (I use iCloud for that).

I’ve used Fastmail for years now on a work account. It’s best feature is that it’s not Google. First, no phone support. Hardly acceptable when even Google has this. Second, no collaboration suite like Drive/Docs. Third, no addons I’m accustomed to having in my daily driver email suite. Things I miss include schedule to send later, default reply all, and no priority inbox. Im stuck using Google for email and maps. I h…

There are three things that are hard to leave Google for: 1. My email address, I've had my firstname.lastname@gmail.com from almost the beginning of Gmail. 2. $99 a year for 2TB of storage that is shared across my email, images and Google Drive 3. Google One, I can share that storage with my wife and kids and also monitor my kids accounts.

I hate myself a little for tying my kids into Google with their own Gmail addresses but the process is too easy to ignore, I don't have time to cobble together a mishmash of services. One part of me thinks Google needs to be broken up, the other thinks it will be a pain in the ass.

Re: Mozilla VPN

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Post by raxxorrax »

neilv wrote: post #131
haunter wrote: post #15

Every single time I start researching VPN services I end up more confused and with more questions than before because basically every vouched service has the same amount of negative comments too. Like feels like the whole sector is a honeypot (lol) of shady stuff and also they figthing against each other (or not?). So I just wait until when turns out Mullvad is also one of the bad guys.

Some reasons you might get some negative vibes from looking into consumer VPN services: * Some consumer VPN services have been found to be doing sketchy things. And you can imagine the business is attractive to people intending to do sketchy things, since it's a powerful/lucrative position to be in right now. (In addition to the business possibly being attractive to people just wanting to provide a useful and honest…

The hypothetical culture of rule-breaking might not be convinced by a culture of rule-breaking surveillance. Seriously, I think government has gone to far with surveillance and that just means that I want to minimize my data collection on a domestic level.

Re: Mozilla VPN

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Post by EwanToo »

krrrh wrote: post #372
lilyball wrote: post #173

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How about FastMail? They have a stellar email service. They also offer contacts and calendars, though I don't personally use those (I use iCloud for that).

I’ve been a happy Fastmail user for years, but in a recent thread Announcing Hey, it was alleged that fastmail will recycle your email address after you stop paying them, and that it’s a common attack to try to register old fastmail addresses and try to use them to access services. This contrasts with Hey which will forward your old hey.com address to another address after you stop paying, and not make it available t…

FastMail do recycle addresses, which I don't like, but Hey will start to run out of addresses over the years unless they do something.

The better option is to register your own domain for $10 a year, something hey doesn't seem to support?

Re: Mozilla VPN

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Post by signal11 »

stormdennis wrote: post #418
jacobsenscott wrote: post #386

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Do people use phone support? I've never used it for anything in my life. If I was unable to make something work without phone support I would just switch to another service.

I once got on to Microsoft for some phone support, After asking me lots of questions about myself which were necessary before they could answer the specific question I'd already asked, the person on the other end finished up by saying that this was a question I needed to put instead to the vendor who had sold me the product. I can't remember if they asked if there was anything else they could help me with today.

Microsoft Support can be quite good depending upon the product you need help with.

I’ve called them for help with a Office 365 issue and they were very helpful.

I’ve called them once for an Xbox issue (I wanted to buy an Xbox 360 game and it wasn’t letting me) and the rep didn’t really have a clue. I ended up finding the answer after searching a few Xbox forums.

Re: Mozilla VPN

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Post by raxxorrax »

helloooooooo wrote: post #24
pipermerriam wrote: post #18

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I use ProtonVPN. Same company as ProtonMail. Highly reputable with a business model around doing privacy and encryption well.

NordVPN shares offices in Estonia with ProtonVPN. For that reason I find it sketchy.

I don't think NordVPN is sketchy, even with their latest hic-ups. They are however located in Panama as far as I know, which probably gives the US access for "drug trafficing".
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