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Re: Notion for everyone

#441
I can't believe that no one has brought up a Lotus Notes comparison yet. The Notion sales pitch feels very similar to the Notes one; everything in one place.

Notes itself was actually not that bad but it was very complex and usually turned into something it shouldn't have been - like an email server.

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I’ve had a similar experience with Notion. “Jack of all trades and master of none” resonates strongly with me. This lead me to my latest startup https://froosthq.com/ which is Notion inspired and aimed solely at software teams.

Love the landing page. Can I ask what tools/frameworks you used or just straight up tailwind and desgin skills?

Straight up Tailwind

Re: Notion for everyone

#443

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I’ve had a similar experience with Notion. “Jack of all trades and master of none” resonates strongly with me. This lead me to my latest startup https://froosthq.com/ which is Notion inspired and aimed solely at software teams.

Tailwindui! Did you use it for the app aswell? Would love to see what the app UI looks like for this

Yes sir. Everything is Tailwind.

Re: Notion for everyone

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Does this product "exist" yet or is it vaporware we're putting our email addresses in for? Page seems very light on info or even pricing.

The product exists indeed and it’s very stable. Been out there for years.

Froost or Notion? Froost's homepage says "subscribe for early access".

Re: Notion for everyone

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Tracking scripts / cookies are only loaded if you click "Yes", otherwise they are not loaded at all.

Not having a clear way to deny personalised tracking is also in violation of the EU Cookie Directive. From looking at the currency used though, it seems that you don't need to concern yourself with EU stuff soon =)

As far as the EU Cookie Directive is concerned, I don't think this is correct. The directive stipulates that you cannot use non-vital cookies until the user explicitly consents. This consent must be freely given, i.e. it must not be a requirement to use the site. Since our banner is mildly annoying but doesn't prevent use of the site, I think this complies. As a side note, I'm not sure you can be in "violation" of the ePrivacy directive, as it is a directive, not a regulation (unlike GDPR). This will change when the ePrivacy Regulation[1] comes into play. I might be wrong here though, IANAL.

However, since a lot of people are not a fan of our banner, we've decided to add an explicit "no" option. I still disagree that our original implementation is a "dark pattern", as we very explicitly[2] will not sell your data, and tracking for the sake of improving the product seems like a square deal to me. But I can understand how people would find it annoying, so it's been changed. Sorry about that.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPrivacy_Regulation_(European_... [2] https://supernotes.app/terms/

Re: Notion for everyone

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What exactly is your definition of ethical? Because a little box at the bottom of a webpage that just sits there does not really cross the unethical line for me. For me, this is only a dark pattern if the cookie banner makes the site unusable (as many sites do) until you click "Yes". Ours clearly does not. Regardless, the initial accusation was: > If you're not giving people a choice, why even pretend? Which is clear…

So why not allow disabling of the box?

Because we do actually want you to click "yes", so that we can understand how you're using the site. Annoying? Absolutely. Unethical? I don't think so.

However, since a lot of people are not a fan of our banner, we've decided to add an explicit "no" option. I still disagree that our original implementation is a "dark pattern", as we very explicitly[1] will not sell your data, and tracking for the sake of improving the product seems like a square deal to me. But I understand that people are finding it annoying, so it's been changed. Sorry about that.

[1] https://supernotes.app/terms/

Re: Notion for everyone

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Notion's just a tool, like a pen and a pad. If you decide to use it for nothing but busy work, that's an option I suppose. But I get a lot of real work done using Notion.

The act of using Notion is in of itself busy work which distracts from productivity. Not that you are using it for busy work. It's a strategy used by productivity "gurus" for 100+ years to keep the $$ trickling in. Just a few years ago it was todist...before that it was Omni. Once notion peaks we will all move on to the next one.

That doesn't make any sense. Notion is literally just a powerful text editor. If the act of using Notion is busywork, then so is the act of using a typewriter, a pen, a whiteboard, any other text editor, etc.

Re: Notion for everyone

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This is kinda weird, because I was happily giving them $4/month after running out of space in their trial plan, and now I absolutely have no reason to keep giving them money. Which, sure, I guess I'll take it. My $4/month isn't going to make or break their business and they probably barely give a shit about getting money for personal usage. Does remind me that my usage of their app doesn't align with their business m…

By keeping SSO out of personal use, they can be assured that most businesses will have to pay as thus they can more easily give this part of their service away.

Another example of the SSO Tax: https://robchahin.github.io/sso-wall-of-shame/

Re: Notion for everyone

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Nifty! I just placed in a beta request. A business partner and I heavily prefer to utilize markdown for note taking (we generally use Typora) but this poses problems when we are trying to colaborate on a document together. Does Obsidian support real time collaborative editing?

Thanks for the interest! Not yet, currently most of our users bring their own sync (Dropbox etc.), so if you edit the same document in real time that might create conflict copies. We're working on a sync service with end-to-end encryption (for convenience, completely optional), and we might improve it to support real-time collaboration in the future.

I just tried the beta. Beautifully done @erica
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