Larry Wall has approved renaming Perl 6 to Raku

Post by Dylan16807 » Mon, Oct 14, 2019, 7:00 PM UTC

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That applies to every living thing ever, though. You're not focusing on the camel at all, or elevating it, unlike joshred's formulation.

Not everything that ever lived is as adapted as the camel and not in as many ways. it has huge fat stores so it can go a long time between meals. It can go a long time without even drinking. It has for thick enough it won't sunburn but thin enough it won't overheat easily. They have a third, translucent eyelid that opens to the side like something you might see on a reptile, but they still have the two main lashed ey…

Post by dragonwriter » Mon, Oct 14, 2019, 9:12 PM UTC

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I read a blog post with the basics, then Google everything else as I need it.

I think explains a lot of the polarised reactions people have towards Perl. It's trivial to understand the difference between the scalar var $foo and the array var $foo[0] if someone explains it to you or you read it; but if you're trying to Google-as-you-go, you don't even know what to search for. Those in the former group are more likely to find Perl delightful, while to the latter it's just frustrating.

Post by sjn » Tue, Oct 15, 2019, 1:54 AM UTC

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I get hired all the time to fix legacy systems in Perl or to build new systems in Perl. We're still out there, but it's not "cool" to talk about.

I hope you are not working on my old sins. But if you are, can I watch? :-)

Post by ncmncm » Tue, Oct 15, 2019, 11:21 AM UTC

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Legit question. Movable Type is about the only blog framework not written in PHP. If you thought Perl was a bad language, PHP is way, way worse. And Movable Type is also the only one that can use Postgres for storage. I could not find any blog engine in Python.

There are static site generators written in Python you could use to publish a blog, like Pelican ( https://blog.getpelican.com/ ) and Lektor ( https://www.getlektor.com/ ). But yeah, if you want software that works like WordPress and generates pages dynamically on the fly, I'm not sure there's any good Python-based alternatives. > If you thought Perl was a bad language, PHP is way, way worse In fairness to PHP, it's…

Post by b2gills » Wed, Oct 16, 2019, 4:06 AM UTC

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For concurrency I think Raku has slightly more developed async support than Python, but the bigger advantage, I think, is in parallelism where, aside from the CPython GIL limiting practical parallelism in the main implementation (which is a big deal), Python as a language lacks the parallel iterables produced by the hyper (parallel but constrained to return in order) and race (parallel and not constrained in order) m…

Sounds like multiprocessing.Pool.imap and imap_unordered? When dealing with io you also have async/await equivalent iterators like asyncio.as_completed().

    sub foo ( Int \n where 1..100 ) {
      #  ___ start is a prefix operator that creates a Promise
      # V
      start { sleep n.rand; (1..n).pick }
    }

    my $result = foo(10);

    say $result.status; # Planned

    say await $result; # 6 (after a delay)



    # this is nearly identical to foo above
    sub bar ( Int \n where 1..100 ) {
      Promise.in( n.rand ).then({ (1..n).pick })
    }

    my @promises = Promise.in(1.rand) xx 10;

    my @results = await @promises;