In effect, Seattle is decriminalizing the use of hard drugs

Post by pnw_hazor » Sat, Aug 24, 2019, 1:07 AM UTC

asveikau wrote: post #372

pnw_hazor wrote: post #155

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Police just follow the lead of politicians. Seattle Police ignore just about everything except active shooters. Even emergency calls about homeless brandishing knives in broad daylight are ignored. (If someone does get stabbed, the police will show.) Seattle politicians have shown that they have no interest in keeping violent people off the streets, so the police don't waste their time with it.

> Seattle Police ignore just about everything except active shooters. I've been away from Seattle for a while, so excuse me if it's changed. But I still remember quite well in 2010 when Seattle police gunned down a native american for crossing the street downtown, I think it was off of Howell. That guy used to ask me and my wife for change. His big crime was making a very young officer, I believe a recent arrival fro…

Post by nathansoz » Sat, Aug 24, 2019, 1:36 AM UTC

just_lurkin wrote: post #17

The reporters designation of "figured out" seems to stem more from the fact that the solution fits his own view than any actual real evidence. There is mention of the difficulties such lax policies has brought to the city, but they are waved away as being "growing pains" toward a new utopia. I can't say, living here, that I feel that the problem is solved. I view the needles outside my apartment as evidence to the co…

Post by anarazel » Sat, Aug 24, 2019, 1:43 AM UTC

unethical_ban wrote: post #340

michaelmrose wrote: post #215

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Having had to deal with issues in Seattle myself and having had family members that were the victims of crime in Seattle I'm sympathetic however can't we do a better job of dealing with the violent and deal with addicts without throwing them into an oubliette? Regarding the idiot trying to throw women over the overpass. Your statement is in error. It's a crime to try to harm people as well and he has in fact been arr…

I think the tough call needs to be made that when someone is obviously mentally ill, homeless and without proper sane supervision, the State should institutionalize them indefinitely.

Post by malandrew » Sat, Aug 24, 2019, 1:47 AM UTC

ndarwincorn wrote: post #350

malandrew wrote: post #345

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Time and time again, empathy leads to bad counterproductive policies with good intentions. Compassion is a much better path.

I didn't think empathy had much to do with the tough on crime policies that are bearing this fruit today, or the dehumanizing rhetoric rampant in this thread that justifies doubling down on those failed policies. Time and time again, fear leads to bad counterproductive policies with debateably good intentions. I'm ignoring the meaningless/unspoken distinction between compassion and empathy in your comment.

Post by grogenaut » Sat, Aug 24, 2019, 1:54 AM UTC

dsfyu404ed wrote: post #168

grogenaut wrote: post #66

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Seattle, part of Washington, actually has concealed carry as legal. There is no duty to retreat either, no real different than any "gun friendly" state. So your point is invalid. Anyone can have loaded carry pistol, this shows you to be pointless in this example. I assume you're just trying to troll and failing badly.

Yes, but Seattle being Seattle it is not populated by the kind of people who will pack heat. That's like saying "well Austin is part of Texas so why doesn't everyone wear a cowboy hat and go hog hunting on the weekend." Both those cities are basically San Fransisco demographically speaking. And just because concealed carry legal doesn't mean the process is constructed in such a way that normal people can actually do…