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Re: Verizon to Sell Tumblr to Automattic

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> a very loud, probably rather small subset of Tumblr users (or rather: former users) Well, according to this chart (which I have only cursorily vetted), it seems there are a lot of "former users": https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/af9rwu/oc_... It shows that as of Jan, 2019, there were about 50% as many users as when the ban was announced. That would suggest that there are as many "former users" as t…

The assumption that Tumblr's loss of users is entirely or even mostly due to suppressing adult content is probably unwarranted, but I'd be interested in data either way.

Yes and no. As someone commented above, when people lost one of their interests, the dropped it completely and took all their presence away.

One of the reasons that I left is the need for Yahoo to share all my actions with some of the shittiest trackers, advertisers, and privacy violators. Not fun fact: you can't shake/AdBlock/NoScript/PrivacyBadger them if Tumblr itself is doing the sale.

Re: Verizon to Sell Tumblr to Automattic

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Why didn't Pornhub acquire Tumblr? Could you give us more information about this, since Pornhub once said they wanted to acquire Tumblr.

Hmm, this raises the question: why hasn't Pornhub (or anyone) started a successful X-rated Tumblr clone yet? The demand seems to be there.

Who's paying for it?

Re: Verizon to Sell Tumblr to Automattic

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This subthread is discussing a misconception prevalent among HN users. But this same misconception may also be shared by other groups; no one is saying it's exclusive to HN. I believe your anecdotal experience in this area is true and accurate. But at the same time, the raw stats just don't reflect it being universally accurate across all users. A similar phenomenon has occurred regarding people saying they're quitti…

You're talking about accounts with porn content. GP and others are talking about visitors who may not even have an account.

I've addressed that nuance in other comments in this subthread. My statements are accurate no matter how you define a "user".

Additionally, Tumblr started requiring a logged-in account to view adult content some time before the ban (something like 9 months before it iirc).

Furthermore, GP specifically said "forced off the platform", "go to Tumblr", etc which strongly implies people with accounts / using the site's dashboard feed which requires an account (as opposed to visiting specific blog subdomains directly as a logged-out user).

I really don't understand the implicit distrust of my direct first-hand experience here. The amount of gaslighting in this thread is profoundly disturbing.

Re: Verizon to Sell Tumblr to Automattic

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Please actually do this. Find a way to get Verizon to sign off on this, and then get in touch with an established documentary maker. Pair them with an engineer and follow the story of the migration efforts. It will take time, and it'll certainly have a narrative. Nothing like this has been done before. I struggle with making what I do relatable to people, but having a technical or semi-technical documentary following…

From the documentaries I've seen, its lots of people walking to a meeting, meetings themselves, etc. For that kind of documentary, probably people walking into servers rooms, or having heated discussions. In Automattic, we basically evolved to remove all that :) There would be basically zoom calls and slack discussions. The most ambitious project I worked on in Automattic were just me, looking at the code and trying…

Follow-up: these are two of my most upvoted comments. A lot of people want to see this. :)

Re: Verizon to Sell Tumblr to Automattic

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Hmm, this raises the question: why hasn't Pornhub (or anyone) started a successful X-rated Tumblr clone yet? The demand seems to be there.

Who's paying for it?

Users. Paid porn is huge, I'm sure they would have no problem providing it as a paid service. They already have pornhub premium which is apparently very successful

>Pornhub Premium launched in 2015, and now has more than 1 million signups. That's nearly the number of people who subscribe to the Showtime channel's streaming service.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/10-interesting-things-might-n...

>According to various reports, currently, the porn industry’s net worth is about $97 billion. This money is enough to feed at-least 4.8 billion people a day. Every year, Hollywood releases roughly 600 movies and makes $10 billion in profit. And how much porn industry makes? 13,000 films and close to $15 billion in profit. The porn industry makes more money than Major League Baseball, The NFL and The NBA combined.

https://medium.com/@Strange_bt_True/how-big-is-the-porn-indu...

Re: Verizon to Sell Tumblr to Automattic

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Hmm, this raises the question: why hasn't Pornhub (or anyone) started a successful X-rated Tumblr clone yet? The demand seems to be there.

Is there a demand for an NSFW-only Tumblr alternative, or was it the mix of content that made Tumblr popular? I mean personally I think if e.g. pornhub were to launch a product like that, they should make sure that it's not associated with PH or pornography directly. That creates a stigma - "oh, it's that porn blog" - which in my outsider's perspective was never Tumblr's identity.

Anecdotally, the only people I know that used tumblr used it exclusively for porn, lewds, kinks, etc.

Re: Verizon to Sell Tumblr to Automattic

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Feel free to link to the "correct" ones...

Those stats are not publicly available. In general, for any company, at best they may or may not include the stats in quarterly earnings statements if the company is publicly traded. Although Tumblr has been owned by public companies since 2013, its corporate owners have not made these stats publicly available. Elsewhere in this subthread, I've linked to public info showing that in absolute content creation numbers,…

>If you want to trust clearly incorrect numbers in The Verge over the person who built the company's relational storage tier, I suppose that's your prerogative.

So, the Verge refers to data from two sources SimilarWeb and Statista, whereas your data are basically "trust me" and "absolute content creation numbers" (that is: not visitors).

And on top, you say you've built Tumblr's infrastructure.

I guess it's me and The Verge who is biased.

Re: Verizon to Sell Tumblr to Automattic

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I'm super excited to have the Tumblr team and product join the Automattic family. We've been evolving Automattic to be more of a Berkshire Hathaway-inspired model and businesses with a lot of autonomy, and this continues that trend. I was very impressed with the engagement and activity Tumblr has continued to have, and I hope that with this new ownership and investment the product will blossom.

Tumblr secret souce was freedom .. 4chans freedom .. if you take that away .. it's not interesting anymore ..

It will became a choped down space of expression !

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