DuckDuckGo will use Apple Maps

Post by jkepler » Wed, Jan 16, 2019, 11:02 AM UTC

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I'm a bit uncomfortable with how much DDG's marketing is focused on trashing their competition. They deliberately obfuscate privacy issues to strengthen their narrative. Sure duckduckgo is a good company right now, but that's only because they're small. I doubt they'll stay that way when they capture a significant market share.

> when they capture a significant market share. but they haven't built a better mousetrap, and they're up against the greatest mousetrap ever known to mankind

Post by kaoD » Wed, Jan 16, 2019, 11:52 AM UTC

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Eh...Google even 5 years ago was 10x more useful to me than they are now. No exaggeration. Even Search has become markedly less useful, a common story around here, to the point where even nonbubbled proxied Startpage.com searches are disappointing. Maps becomes less reliable all the time from a user perspective (in my immediate region, to cover my ass I guess). Chromecast and YouTube, in general and in conjunction, h…

I remember there was a time when googling was so intelligent it seemed like it was going to become self aware! Dunno what happened along the way but the last few years it’s like a giantfairly sophisticated grep coupled with a bunch of sponsored links.

Post by morganvachon » Wed, Jan 16, 2019, 12:02 PM UTC

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> Apple shared all their iCloud user data (messages, pics, docs, etc.) and keys with the Chinese government last year. [1] They shared all their Chinese users' iCloud data. It's a huge distinction and I feel like you paraphrased it deliberately to try to make Apple appear to have sold out all of their users worldwide. While what they did in China is terrifying in general, it doesn't compromise security for any Apple…

Google's Dragonfly was the same thing - sharing "only" Chinese user data. GPs comparison was privacy between the two companies, and one cares more about selling in China than the privacy of it's users.

Post by dwighttk » Wed, Jan 16, 2019, 12:14 PM UTC

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> Sure duckduckgo is a good company right now, but that's only because they're small. Only because they are small? That seems to imply that if they ever get big, they’ll no doubt become evil, privacy-wise. Apple proves that does not have to be the case.

My point is that right now, DDG too small to do any real harm to anyone. Their questionable word choice in announcements and blog posts signal to me that they're willing to take shortcuts to achieve their bottom line. If they grow big enough, these shortcuts will start actually hurting people.

Post by licebmi__at__ » Wed, Jan 16, 2019, 12:40 PM UTC

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> Apple obeys the laws of the countries is operates in. Are you suggesting they should not? They can always choose not to operate in those countries. But they do, and accordingly making a conscious decision to endorse those laws in the name of profit.

According to that logic any Western tourist that visits Beijing and goes to Tiananmen Square, as I have, and doesn't wave about pro-democracy banners is 'making a conscious decision to endorse' Chinese censorship laws. So apparently I'm now a Communist shill? Or are you saying that no foreign companies anywhere should do any business at all in China and no tourists should go there because doing so and obeying the law…