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The Surface Book 2 is everything the MacBook Pro should be

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Re: The Surface Book 2 is everything the MacBook Pro should be

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I went with P71, running NixOS on it. The perfect development machine (with a 5k monitor to boot); way better than what MacOS or Windows can achieve.

I looked at the P series, nice machines will probably look at one of those next but I think I'll get some life out the T470P yet.

I have a P51, and I just bought a Pixelbook because the P51 is a great machine but not really a laptop. See here: https://programmingzen.com/google-pixelbook-review/

Re: The Surface Book 2 is everything the MacBook Pro should be

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The Surface Book also runs something I never want to deal with again: Windows 10. I can't deal with a software that constantly gets in the way of my work. I gave Windows a lot of tries, but the latest edition was the last straw for me. Never going back.

Does it run Ubuntu?

Re: The Surface Book 2 is everything the MacBook Pro should be

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Such articles always give too much importance to the hardware (which is somewhat important, no doubt) and not enough importance to the software. Many people are looking for quality alternatives to Macbooks, Mac Mini, etc (myself included). Mac Mini hasn’t been updated for 4-5 years. So, I started setting up a Windows desktop as a Mac Mini replacement. But when it came to finding all the alternatives to the OS X softw…

In Ubuntu I use WPS office, and it does an OK job. Not perfect, but native office is just out of the question.

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It’s 2018 and I still see people walking around with Windows laptop lids open because they presumably have no confidence in Windows’ ability to sensibly preserve state after closing the lid. Software matters, and how it integrates with hardware. And I keep waiting for them to fix just the basics in Windows 10. Not utterly losing both the sizes and positions of all windows just because the laptop was undocked. Not fai…

My favorite feature of Windows 10 is displaying ads for Minecraft or Candy Crush or whatever in the start menu.

To be fair, it is very easy to remove those adds.

Re: The Surface Book 2 is everything the MacBook Pro should be

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That is not a solution. I want to work on files in my WSL home folder. Lots of language based package managers like npm and composer "live" inside a folder in your home directory. It's very important that VSCode running as a windows application be able to read/write to these files. As it is right now I can't even edit my ~/.ssh/config from VSCode without jumping through hoops.

If you want to access your home folder in both, all you have to do is first create the folder in Windows, for example, create a wslhome folder inside your user folder in windows. Copy everything in your current WSL home folder, including hidden files, into that one. Then rename your WSL home folder to back it up and replace it with a symbolic link to the Windows folder. In WSL, use ln -s /mnt/c/Users/[your Windows us…

This is exactly right. Having interop is great.

Re: The Surface Book 2 is everything the MacBook Pro should be

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C:\Users\Windows Username\AppData\Local\lxss\home\WSL username\.ssh ? Unless i'm misunderstanding the issue

The file becomes invisible to WSL right after it gets edited in Windows. It's because it's doing weird tricks to associate UNIX permissions to files stored in Windows. The Windows app will break those permissions so instead of mitigating that in WSL it simply stops being able to "see" the file.

Do you have more detail about this? I edit files in VSCode/Notepad++ and execute them in WSL daily and have never run into this issue.

Re: The Surface Book 2 is everything the MacBook Pro should be

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I looked at the P series, nice machines will probably look at one of those next but I think I'll get some life out the T470P yet.

I have a P51, and I just bought a Pixelbook because the P51 is a great machine but not really a laptop. See here: https://programmingzen.com/google-pixelbook-review/

That was what drew me to the T470P absurdly fast little machine, 200+ dpi screen and upgradeable ram and storage.

I like the 14” as a step between 13 and 15 as well.

Re: The Surface Book 2 is everything the MacBook Pro should be

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This issue comes again and again, I'm getting really tired of this "issue". After all this time this is the top comment, while discussing a really good convertible? He mentions that people don't trust Windows for savely restoring their session, but if i'm not mistaking, it's Ubuntu ( i think) that had such a bug for a VERY long time ( https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2321399 ). I have never heard such proble…

Nico I ha estado major issues and they were the original reason for switching from Windows. I'd love you feedback on them. 1. Apple doesn't slow down due to not being rebooted. I rarely reboot for this reason; basically only for system updates. 2. Suspend I believe is the service? I just close the lid, open, login and keep working. This last time I used Windows wasn't possible. From crashing applications and the dire…

I reboot once a month, never have an issue.

I do research the laptop that I buy though, but can't think of anything else, except my laptops are about 1000€, not 500 :)

Re: The Surface Book 2 is everything the MacBook Pro should be

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I tried Bash on Windows and it was absolutely not good enough . Not yet.

What problems did you find it with it? I've been using it for the past 6 months after dual booting and running VMs for a long time and found I haven't found a reason to boot into my VM yet.

I periodically boot into Windows 10, mainly for join.me calls with customers, and I'm always curious to see how the WSL is progressing. It's clearly come a long ways, and I'm encouraged by the recent support for multiple Linux distributions. But for development purposes, it's doesn't yet come close to replacing a native Linux environment.

The performance is frankly terrible by comparison -- for example, running `bundle install` in a moderately complex Rails application will take nearly an order of magnitude longer (not to mention the Windows virus scan process soaking up 30% of your CPU the entire time).

Another issue is with background services -- I've had numerous issues running PostgreSQL, Redis, and other services (e.g. some services fail to start, or cannot be cleanly stopped, or I'll encounter strange network errors). However, these issues are all documented extensively in various GitHub issues, so hopefully they'll be resolved going forward. For PostgreSQL, the usual suggestion is to install PostgreSQL in Windows, and then access it from the WSL, but that kind of defeats the purpose.

I don't mean to be overly negative, but at least for my purposes, the WSL just isn't quite there in terms of being a viable alternative for daily development work.

Re: The Surface Book 2 is everything the MacBook Pro should be

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Apple don't want you to, but don't actually impede you installing native Linux. I believe the surface is locked hardware but I'd be delighted to be told I'm wrong.

No, they're equally bad in this respect. The newest MBP does not work well with linux (wifi, audio, etc), and this surface book seems like it also has a few problems with linux. If I could actually use linux on the newest MBP, I would've bought it in a heartbeat.

I did them a misservice: https://www.reddit.com/r/SurfaceLinux/comments/6eau79/curren...
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