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Microsoft acquires Github

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Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by danmg »

Microsoft doesn't really want github. What they want is Electron.

Say what you want about their Windows and Office divisions, they put a lot of effort and resources into their development tool side. Being able to direct the development Electron, the way a lot of desktop applications are being written in 201X, is a clear advantage to them commercially. They also have the ability and resources to solve some of the problems that have plagued Electron/NW like resource use and distribution.

What will happen to the github site itself? Not a whole lot. That's all pretty stable. More likely it will stagnate since they won't really know what to do with it.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by maemilius »

bernardino wrote: post #386
mkirklions wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, I really dont understand why there are Microsoft fans. Like I understand if you bought an Xbox, but I dont understand if you are a programmer. Microsoft has always been a headache. Recently its been a tiny bit better, but they still are a for-profit company that needs to continue to make a profit. This was to make Microsoft money, nothing to 'help programmers'.

> Yep, I really dont understand why there are Microsoft fans. I definitely agree. Anything Microsoft-related, or even Google-related, is a no from me. Just from a product standpoint, most of there products inherently aren’t that great. And you get that feeling when using their products, a feeling of “oh, this must be a Microsoft product because it feels very corporate.” Plus, there approach to design is subpar — it’s…

> it’s like there’s people out there that actually like Google’s Material Design?

I like Material Design...

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by slics »

The beauty in all of this is that you still have the power to continue make use of github, or you can chose another provider if Microsoft doesn’t meet all of your needs. In contrary, as a business decision this was a good move for Microsoft. Now they can invest in integrating Azure and people can deploy directly to Azure.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by the_duke »

Unrelated to all the other aspects, 4 times markup over the last valuation is quite an impressive markup for a loss making company.

Of course the brad name, mind share and userbase are worth a lot, but that much? I reckon they must have also talked to some competing bidders, like Google.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by pweissbrod »

benzoate wrote: post #412
privacypoller wrote: post #313

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a developer Microsoft has treated my far better than any other corporation pushing an agenda. Amazon seems kind of apathetic towards any one developer or group, Google and Apple can be down-right hostile in their policies or support. Microsoft has by far hosted the most events that I have access to, ranging from global developer conferences to user-group meetings.Their tooling and developer support has always been…

As a former windows phone user and .NET developer who is currently a mobile developer, Microsoft definitely treated mobile developers worse than any other company. They killed what small progress they’d made on their ecosystem 2 times, simply because they got bored and decided they didn’t like the technology stack they’d previously mandated and supported. They deserved to get buried in that space. Meanwhile Apple hav…

As someone who also developed on windows phone I really disagree with this portrayal. Microsoft did not change the stack on account of "getting bored" with the tech.

Looking back on it, they took on an extremely difficult problem having a completely new marketplace and platform against competitors with tremendous amount of pre-existing traction.

There were clearly some pivots towards universal windows compatibility, and possibility of android compatibility as well. Nobody argues there's a ton of tactical failures and the net result was a loss, but I wouldnt conflate the mobile endeavor with something half-baked nor disregard to developers

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by janemanos »

Well, not that easy for a larger project to switch to another platform. I work for ArangoDB and as silly as it sounds but leaving the street and investor cred of our Github Stars behind is not really an option, kind of a lock-in is also there on Github

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by Someone1234 »

zodPod wrote: post #435
Delmania wrote: post #425

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> Haven't they spied on Windows 10 users? How is it spying when they present you with a full screen detailing data collection with the option to turn it off, and have several blog posts providing details. > Do they not engage in patents racketeering? It's not much of an excuse, but all tech companies do this. > Haven't they killed Nokia and ruined Skype? Didn't they give Windows Mobile one hell of a run? Like they tr…

I'm really not sure here but I was under the impression that they had started doing the full screen detailing data collection thing after they had gotten caught doing it without it?

They made it clearer and easier to review and change, but data collection was always toggle-able in Windows 10. A lot of people just hit "Express Setup" and then were surprised when the defaults were full collection.

The Privacy Panel in the new Settings applet for example has always existed.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by heckanoobs »

rootlocus wrote: post #271
heckanoobs wrote: post #243

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We can assume Microsoft's motivation is money, they have a long history of selling professional solutions to development teams, I'm a developer with a team on GitHub in need of solutions, and I have money. It's Microsoft's to lose. I think you're mistaking your blind hate for my blind hype

> I think you're mistaking your blind hate for my blind hype I don't hate microsoft, and I've shown no hate in my comment. I'm pointing out that you can't expect all your problems to be solved because of an ownership change. Caution and skepticism will serve you better than wishful thinking and hype.

You say you've shown no hate yet you reply to my support of this acquisition with a comment that quickly dismisses my enthusiasm as misplaced hype.

Now you provide advice when I didn't ask you for any. I don't know you. You don't know me and you certainly don't know what will "serve me better" as readily as I don't know that Microsoft will fix all my problems.

If you've found stability in your world view then good for you, it takes all kinds. Skeptics and optimists and more. Spend less time putting others down and more time melting in the pot.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by pmlnr »

tjoff wrote: post #354
nimbius wrote: post #117

Friendly reminder: this is the same Microsoft that "empowered" skype and once called open source a cancer. Its the same Microsoft that ruined open document standards and started the browser wars. I wouldnt be surprised to see next years release of "Github Pro Platinum with Minecraft 3D and Windows Store integration" For those looking to move, https://gitlab.com is an excellent open source alternative that can easily…

Friendly reminder: Skype was pure garbage before MS acquired it. I have no idea from where people got the idea that MS ruined Skype. Started the browser wars? Too bad the browser wars have been too small, because we obviously haven't learned anything from them.

> Skype was pure garbage before MS acquired it.

You have a weird memory. Skype was a very nice thing back in ~2009-2010.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by suaveybloke »

mkirklions wrote: post #124
bad_user wrote: post #32

People keep mentioning how "Microsoft changed" due to VS Code, the Linux subsystem, .NET Core. I say that they are the same company, only with different cash cows. Haven't they spied on Windows 10 users? Do they not engage in patents racketeering? Haven't they killed Nokia and ruined Skype? " But Mom, some of the other companies are doing it too ", well yeah, but some of us don't have double standards, in spite of wh…

Yep, I really dont understand why there are Microsoft fans. Like I understand if you bought an Xbox, but I dont understand if you are a programmer. Microsoft has always been a headache. Recently its been a tiny bit better, but they still are a for-profit company that needs to continue to make a profit. This was to make Microsoft money, nothing to 'help programmers'.

What's wrong with being 'a for-profit company that needs to continue to make a profit'? Should they run their business at a loss?
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