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Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

#441

I just updated - WOW! What an improvement! Compared startup time and scrolling around some over-monetized sites; Behaves just as well as Chrome. Time for a switch again, I've missed FireFox since I started having Chrome as my default browser back in ~2011

If it as just as good as chrome, why should I switch? Especially given how good Chrome Dev tools are.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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I just upgraded. It completely changes the chrome of the browser on OSX and it is _absolutely hideous_. There are a lots of unnecessary animations that I find very jarring. I don't know if there's a way to change it back yet. UPDATE: There is a "Customize Firefox" button which allows modifying the theme, which fixes the colors, but not the shape of the tabs or the animations. UPDATE: In about:config, you can disable…

The loading animations are really distracting and bad. Some better UI to disable them (or ideally just get rid of them by default) is needed.

If you dislike them, you can disable those kinds of animations by toggling `toolkit.cosmeticAnimations.enabled` in `about:config`

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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I just upgraded. It completely changes the chrome of the browser on OSX and it is _absolutely hideous_. There are a lots of unnecessary animations that I find very jarring. I don't know if there's a way to change it back yet. UPDATE: There is a "Customize Firefox" button which allows modifying the theme, which fixes the colors, but not the shape of the tabs or the animations. UPDATE: In about:config, you can disable…

And it's impossible to put the tabs beneath the address bar, or to have actual toolbars. Decades of UI/UX knowledge, down the drain. Usability is gone.

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Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

#444
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Have a look here [0] for legacy extensions replacements. [0] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TFcEXMcKrwoIAECIVyBU...

There's no replacement for ScrapBook, a plugin where I have a decade of stored annotated documents (no hyperbole, my oldest files date from 2007). Ever since I discovered that FF57 was going to kill ScrapBook I had to disable Firefox updates so I don't lose access to ~6GB of stored data. It's a mix of past, present, and future writing research. I know I have access to clumsy workarounds such as copying FF56 to a VM w…

If you're on Windows, grab a copy of Firefox Portable ESR 52: https://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox-portable-esr

You can 'install' it anywhere you want (Documents folder, other drive, cloud folder, etc). You can copy your profile in using the steps outlined here: https://portableapps.com/support/firefox_portable#local_prof...

It will remain updated through April 2018 and your profile will stay separate from your installed copy of Firefox. In April, ESR is switching to a newer Quantum version of Firefox, so old extensions will be disabled. If, at that point, there isn't a suitable replacement for ScrapBook, disable updates in your copy of Firefox Portable (if you're using the PortableApps.com Platform to automatically update it, rename your FirefoxPortableESR folder to FirefoxPortableESROld or similar) and only use it for ScrapBook not to go online.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

#445

I just updated - WOW! What an improvement! Compared startup time and scrolling around some over-monetized sites; Behaves just as well as Chrome. Time for a switch again, I've missed FireFox since I started having Chrome as my default browser back in ~2011

Firefox is pretty similar looking as Chrome now. I liked FF before cause it looked different, now everyone just copies Chrome look.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

#446

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> most of the bickering is "I want XUL and nothing else" I don't know that that's fair. The discussions I've seen and participated in have revolved around equivalency, not identity. > how many of those lamenting the absence of some API have actually told Mozilla what they need? The Vimperator devs and some users have been very clear on that point. > Mozilla has been very responsive and helpful. Not everything was pos…

> I don't know that that's fair. The discussions I've seen and participated in have revolved around equivalency, not identity. I've developed a couple of Firefox extensions. One of those was an e10s-compatible replacement for Vimperator, because Vimperator relied on XUL[0]. (Vimperator broke long before Firefox 57, because e10s broke backwards compatibility with some extensions long before Firefox 57 did). The old ex…

By "equivalency" I mean having access to equivalent APIs for specific functionality, as for example the inability to listen for window events that's breaking Vimperator and friends. (And electrovim! Have you noticed that it stops working on chrome pages that don't run scripts? Has the CSP bug been fixed? I didn't think it had been.)

Maybe it's not possible to support window event listeners without breaking e10s. But I see no a priori reason why it should be.

I haven't seen anyone in a serious discussion demanding 100% XUL API compatibility or feature coverage. (For the purposes of this comment, most discussion of the issue on HN is unserious.)

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Alright. Is anyone else here using Firefox's master password and found a solution in FF57? I have been using Master Password+ extension for a very long time, but without it using a master password is hell. I had a lot of other modules, but this one was the reason I was still using firefox. The annoying password prompt taking focus like popups in IE every time you open the navigator or a website you are not logged in…

Sorry, I don't follow. I'm on Nightly (the 58-to-be) and I have Firefox configured to use a master password. It seems to come up once per session -- are you shutting down your browser constantly or something? I'm a little confused as to what specifically you don't like. (The one time it comes up is pretty jarring, I'll agree.)

I don't care about having to enter my password once at home. I care much more about having my navigator at work (which syncs all my personal accounts, including bank & government) being unlocked all day long, and much more when I'm not the only one to have admin access to my machine.

57 hasn't been released long enough for me to tell how it'll go... but when I dismiss the prompt once I don't want it to go modal every time firefox tries to sync or every time I click a link on a page I'm not logged in.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

#448
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I hope that firefox will continue to protect users privacy as good as possible. I'm thinking of super cookies and the like. Other brother vendors don't seem to be very engaged in this area.

With their recent testing of Cliqz integration I doubt they're really committed a lot to protecting users privacy.

HN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15421708

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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post #323
post #65

I just upgraded. It completely changes the chrome of the browser on OSX and it is _absolutely hideous_. There are a lots of unnecessary animations that I find very jarring. I don't know if there's a way to change it back yet. UPDATE: There is a "Customize Firefox" button which allows modifying the theme, which fixes the colors, but not the shape of the tabs or the animations. UPDATE: In about:config, you can disable…

And it's impossible to put the tabs beneath the address bar, or to have actual toolbars. Decades of UI/UX knowledge, down the drain. Usability is gone.

> Decades of UI/UX knowledge, down the drain. Usability is gone.

Exactly the opposite; this is an evolution that has been taking place over the past decade.

Firefox has had tabs-on-top as the default since Firefox v4.0[1]. Chrome has had tabs-on-top for its entire existence (starting in Sept 2008); Opera had them before Chrome.

The merits can be argued either way, but don't act like this is sudden or arbitrary; it's neither.

Consider that maybe--just maybe--the dev teams at Mozilla, Google, et al. have done some usability studies in the past decade that informed these decisions.

I get that you may prefer tabs below the URL bar, but your claims about the greater state of UX are baseless and absurd.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmgtW2Iw-kE posted June 2010

EDIT: Google made a comic for the release of Chrome 1.0 that includes an explanation of their original rationale for putting tabs on top. https://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/big_18.html

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

#450
post #65

I just upgraded. It completely changes the chrome of the browser on OSX and it is _absolutely hideous_. There are a lots of unnecessary animations that I find very jarring. I don't know if there's a way to change it back yet. UPDATE: There is a "Customize Firefox" button which allows modifying the theme, which fixes the colors, but not the shape of the tabs or the animations. UPDATE: In about:config, you can disable…

Years of work to make Firefox the fastest browser. Countless research and engineering hours. With actual amazing, noticeable results as soon as you try it. With a bunch of useful UI features. "But tabs aren't curved, so fuck these guys! I won't upgrade!" Oh well...

It's broke!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W5XXnEXuWM

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