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I hate telephones

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Re: I hate telephones

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Everyone complains about companies’ customer service being terrible. But the companies are not the real problem here. The problem is the medium. The problem is synchronous communication. The problem is the telephone. I hate telephones.

What? No.

Once upon a time, a business department could take a message and return it later. You know, exactly like what you would do with email. Asynchronously.

Re: I hate telephones

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> If I were rich, I would have a permanent secretary. If I ever play and win the lottery this is the one thing I would spent big money on. No expensive cars, no expensive wine, just a person which takes care of everything. Need a new insurance for the car? Tell the secretary to do it. Car is broken? Tell the secretary to take care of it. Need a hotel? Tell the personal secretary to book one. Phone broken? Just send a…

That's actually what a lot of rich people do (and it makes the company I work for a boatload of money).

Concierge/Valet services seem to be very valued by rich people (and I guess it would be a hard habit to wean off).

There's definitely work being done on replacing some of that with AI (and it's hard, as rich people want GOOD service).

Re: I hate telephones

#443

> If I were rich, I would have a permanent secretary. If I ever play and win the lottery this is the one thing I would spent big money on. No expensive cars, no expensive wine, just a person which takes care of everything. Need a new insurance for the car? Tell the secretary to do it. Car is broken? Tell the secretary to take care of it. Need a hotel? Tell the personal secretary to book one. Phone broken? Just send a…

Credit card concierge services might fit the bill here for some of these things.

Re: I hate telephones

#444
Phone calls are like the most obnoxious possible pop-up web ad, taking over your entire display and demanding immediate attention, while being the thing you least care about at that instant. They manage to be worse than ads, too: at least with an ad you’re doing something explicit when the ad appears (like clicking a link); a phone call can literally interrupt you in the middle of typing, and HIDE everything you’re doing! Bonus points if you were about to tap on something and end up tapping one of the buttons on your pop-up phone call instead.

I can’t believe we’re at version 11 of iOS when people needed a backgrounded/tiny phone UI since about iOS 2.

Re: I hate telephones

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If you don't want to be bothered, just turn off your ringer and notifications. Don't try to invent non-existent social norms. Part of the reason I have a phone is so people can reach me.

> Don't try to invent non-existent social norms. That's how new social norms come into the world. Often, they get invented in response to technological change. For example, prior to answering machines being widespread, the norm was to never ignore the phone ringing. After, it became OK to ignore the phone if it was inconvenient to answer because if the call was important, the caller would surely leave a message. Now…

I am not saying new norms don't develop. I am saying people shouldn't assert the existence of norms they wish existed but don't.

Re: I hate telephones

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post #335

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Just out of curiosity how do you define Northern Europe? It's a term I'm seeing more lately but I don't know what it really means.

Northern Europe refers geographically to the northern part of Europe, or in a narrower sense, to the cultural grouping of the Nordic countries, Baltic countries, and sometimes also the British Isles. (Wikipedia)

Thank you, however I wasn't looking for the Wikipedia definition. I could have easily looked that up myself. I wanted to know what the poster personally meant by the term.

Re: I hate telephones

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post #266

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Add spammers phone as a contact, then select "all calls to voicemail" for that contact.

Spammers use a spoofed caller ID with the same first 3 digits as your phone number so it looks like a local number sO blocking them by number doesn’t really work.

I agree with you. I've tried to block each one of them for maybe months, but nothing's changed. I still get at least 2-3 calls each day from them. I think ignoring them is the best option for us now, or if you would, just answer their calls, ask their company name, and sue them because of their multiple calls. I just read about this at http://www.whycall.me/news/my-4500-payday-from-a-telemarkete....

Re: I hate telephones

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post #37

I receive about 20 spam calls per day. In contrast, I receive about 0.2 legitimate calls per day. Google itself suspects that these are spam calls, because it pops up a bright red "SUSPECTED SPAM CALLER" warning when the phone begins ringing. And yet, I have found no option to have the phone automatically decline the call. There's not even an option to silence the ringer for any call not from my contacts; I actually…

I use truecaller to automatically block spam calls, it works very well.

Truecaller harvests all your contacts and sells them to third parties like sync.me (huge reverse phonebook). You should look up a few of your contacts’ numbers in there.

Re: I hate telephones

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post #341
post #90

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I added all my numbers to this list a year or two ago and shortly after the spam calls started. Even on numbers that are not publicly used. (I have Google voice as my primary number and it calls my mobile number and a voip desk phone. Now all three get spam calls. I had them for years and the voip and mobile numbers were previously clean. )

I posted this elsewhere in this topic, but my experience with the Federal Do Not Call list was the exact opposite - they promised "within 3 months the calls would stop" and sure enough, within 3 months I never got another call.

Fair, I just checked and it looks like my number was already in the registry when they started getting worse a few years ago. (so adding it again probably did not cause the increase) You can use the site to see if you are already in, and when you were added. one of my numbers was added long before I had it.
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