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Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by throwawaymaroon » Mon, Jan 09, 2017, 8:56 PM UTC

inglor wrote: post #432

BinaryIdiot wrote: post #390

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To be fair I've been a part of 3 acquisitions and have seen this story play out tens of times with beloved software. It always starts out this way. "The original folks are going to run it, not the new company!" "Things will stay the same" yadda yadda yadda. 1-3 years down the road, it'll be a different story. It'll be unlikely that the executive team will stick around past whatever agreement they signed with Atlassia…

I think WhatsApp and Waze are both pretty good examples of high profile acquisitions that played out this way. I also feel like (and I realize many disagree) that YouTube largely kept its "feel" and didn't turn into Google Videos 2.0. Of course there are plenty of examples of exactly what you describe. I feel the same way about Java, Hudson (lol) and plenty of other acquisitions.

That's a terrible example. Remember Google+ accounts and Youtube?

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by dhagz » Mon, Jan 09, 2017, 8:57 PM UTC

bhouston wrote: post #6

This makes sense. Atlassian is good at making money from its services and it is increasing its overall ecosystem here. Github moves really slow in comparison. I guess Github is more focused, but there are a lot of contrasts between Github and Atlassian, and in terms of making money I think Atlassian is doing a lot better. Has Github acquired anything significant? Github should have acquired Zenhub (which is Trello in…

Atlassian provides a whole gamut of enterprise-geared software development tools, whereas GitHub has only just recently started actively pursuing enterprise accounts and providing the features they want.

In addition, Atlassian's services are spread out across many products, which can increase mobility. GitHub has only one product, so while they probably have many teams working on many features, there is still one product they can push releases to.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by hNz » Mon, Jan 09, 2017, 8:59 PM UTC

inglor wrote: post #432

BinaryIdiot wrote: post #390

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair I've been a part of 3 acquisitions and have seen this story play out tens of times with beloved software. It always starts out this way. "The original folks are going to run it, not the new company!" "Things will stay the same" yadda yadda yadda. 1-3 years down the road, it'll be a different story. It'll be unlikely that the executive team will stick around past whatever agreement they signed with Atlassia…

I think WhatsApp and Waze are both pretty good examples of high profile acquisitions that played out this way. I also feel like (and I realize many disagree) that YouTube largely kept its "feel" and didn't turn into Google Videos 2.0. Of course there are plenty of examples of exactly what you describe. I feel the same way about Java, Hudson (lol) and plenty of other acquisitions.

As much as you feel the same about Java and Hudson... what about Virtual Box. All of them are Oracle now and Virtual Box is pretty good?

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by Confusion » Mon, Jan 09, 2017, 8:59 PM UTC

iambateman wrote: post #420

iamaelephant wrote: post #409

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Which products do you think Atlassian messed up after acquisition? Disclaimer I'm an Atlassian employee, but just curious.

I'm not sure about acquisitions, but compared to github, jira and bitbucket are poor. I tried to figure out what confluence even does and I'm still not sure. Considering I'm forced into the atlassian ecosystem at work, this is my plea for y'all to improve.

Github has nothing that comes near what Jira offers. Comparing them is like comparing a car to motorcycle factory. Sure they both deal with some comparable things, but the car gets me from A to B. The motorcycle factory cannot do anything that comes near it for me.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by alnitak » Mon, Jan 09, 2017, 9:00 PM UTC

Well, since Atlassian is in the mood of acquiring, I have made an analytics and data processing system that plugs into JIRA to create custom reports in ways that are not possible currently by JIRA.

It also integrates externally to JIRA regardless of whether it's a cloud or on-premise version.

We have been using it internally successfully since a few months, first in my team and then in others in our company.

Would you guys be interested at Atlassian?

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by rsp1984 » Mon, Jan 09, 2017, 9:02 PM UTC

deepuj wrote: post #322

This is depressing. Trello is a beloved software for a lot of people. It's sad that Trello decided to sell off to Atlassian. I can't believe the same company that makes Jira is going to run Trello. SourceTree is the only software that they make that doesn't suck.

SourceTree is the only software that they make that doesn't suck.

If you compare SourceTree to other halfway modern git clients (like Tower or GitX-dev), oh boy does it suck! The layout is completely disorganized, the diffing is super lousy. It's slow. It sucks up lots of memory. It's literally the last GUI client I'd use before just going to the command line.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by aclsid » Mon, Jan 09, 2017, 9:04 PM UTC

deepuj wrote: post #322

This is depressing. Trello is a beloved software for a lot of people. It's sad that Trello decided to sell off to Atlassian. I can't believe the same company that makes Jira is going to run Trello. SourceTree is the only software that they make that doesn't suck.

Don't know what kind of stuff you are using over there, but Bitbucket has been fantastic for us for over a year already. About to start trying their Bamboo service.

At most, this is welcome news if they manage to integrate Trello with Jira somehow.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by latj » Mon, Jan 09, 2017, 9:06 PM UTC

briandear wrote: post #426

latj wrote: post #389

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What do you like instead of Jira? I dont like Jira either but I do like bitbucket. I started using it back in the day because besides public hosting they also gave me free unlimited private repos and found it does everything I need.

I hate bitbucket. $12 or so per month for private repos is an extremely small price to pay for an infinitely better UX, better integrations and just all all around better experience. For a tool I use multiple times per hour, "free" doesn't matter much to me. Github isn't perfect, but it's damned close. As far as Jira -- the tool itself isn't bad per se, but the way PMs turn it into their own little power-trip kingdom…

"As far as Jira -- the tool itself isn't bad per se, but the way PMs turn it into their own little power-trip kingdom irritates me."

Yeah, this is a pretty common sentiment. Jira is not a great tool, but the things devs really resent is being micromanaged and tracked in such a way that they are turned into a commodity. At the end of the day, if that really bothers you, there are plenty of ways to work free of this feeling- find a company that fits you better or a better manager within your company or strike out on your own. A better ticketing system wont make you happy.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by kstrauser » Mon, Jan 09, 2017, 9:07 PM UTC

omouse wrote: post #425

kstrauser wrote: post #309

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I consider JIRA a code smell: if an organization uses it, I probably won't be satisfied working with them. I don't think it's because of anything especially bad with Atlassian (although I was furious when they removed the ability to edit Confluence in raw mode), as that the managers I least want to work for seem especially attracted to it. Your comment just illuminated that for me and I think you're right. It's the m…

>The best I've worked with considered PM tools essentially fungible After taking a class and reading up on project management and trying to get more organized about my own projects, it's basically that. People have been able to orchestrate large projects with nothing more than pencil and paper and then typewriter. The best PMs don't need to force a tool choice.

Exactly. Once a product meets the basic requirements, everything else tends to be complication and frippery. That doesn't mean there's not room to innovate on those basics, but it does suggest you focus on nailing them perfectly.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by buro9 » Mon, Jan 09, 2017, 9:07 PM UTC

What we really need from Atlassian is yet another syntax or markup to learn for a product in their suite that is different from all of the other products.

I'm glad that now they've acquired another company, we have the opportunity to soon look forward to this.