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All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving Hardware

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Post by brianwawok »

imtringued wrote: post #302
brianwawok wrote: post #101

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Software switch fee. You get the same hardware, different feature flag. Crazy right?

How is that different from buying software for a computer? I can install a linux distribution or buy windows. It's the same hardware, different "feature flag". Somehow that's not crazy.

This is more like your computer coming with 2 hard drives.. One active with your OS, one empty. You can at any time pay $100 and start using the other drive. Otherwise it sits empty.

We are talking about giving people hardware for free, then paying money to turn it on or not.

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Post by Retric »

teebot wrote: post #366
flexie wrote: post #301

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"Data collection that would take years can happen in weeks" I think that we are talking days, not weeks, or probably that Teslas can have multiple teams testing various hardware and algorithms at the same time: Tesla plans on producing 500k cars per year from 2018. If all of them have this equipment, and they drive a conservative 10k miles per year in average, Tesla will gather data from 5 billion miles driven after…

I don't know if any amount of data collection and model refinement will allow self driving in ALL situations. We always see self driving demos in California on very large roads, I'd like to see one in a small crowded street of Napoli or on a crossroad in Ho-Chi Minh.

I don't think self driving cars need to work on say dirt roads to be useful. So, ALL situations is kind of misleading.

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Post by clarkmoody »

teebot wrote: post #366
flexie wrote: post #301

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Data collection that would take years can happen in weeks" I think that we are talking days, not weeks, or probably that Teslas can have multiple teams testing various hardware and algorithms at the same time: Tesla plans on producing 500k cars per year from 2018. If all of them have this equipment, and they drive a conservative 10k miles per year in average, Tesla will gather data from 5 billion miles driven after…

I don't know if any amount of data collection and model refinement will allow self driving in ALL situations. We always see self driving demos in California on very large roads, I'd like to see one in a small crowded street of Napoli or on a crossroad in Ho-Chi Minh.

The most important thing is if the car has the capability to detect when its effectiveness is lower than some threshold and smoothly hands control back to the human.

At the same time, it would beam this data back to HQ and to other cars, telling them to avoid the area of uncertainty.

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Post by lucaspiller »

Diederich wrote: post #431
teebot wrote: post #366

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I don't know if any amount of data collection and model refinement will allow self driving in ALL situations. We always see self driving demos in California on very large roads, I'd like to see one in a small crowded street of Napoli or on a crossroad in Ho-Chi Minh.

> very large roads I've seen quite a few Google self driving cars on Castro in Mountain View. http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4082/4939372588_47979bceec_z.... That picture doesn't do it justice during the most busy hours of the evening, where there's tons of people crossing and bicycles flying about in every direction. Given that, I've never seen a crowded street in Napoli or a crossroad in Ho-Chi Minh, but I can imag…

> a crowded street in Napoli

I'm in Rome, which isn't quite as bad, but yes compared to driving in the US it's completely different. Every day I have to deal with someone cutting me up, or doing something otherwise stupid. You need to drive quite aggressively here, and in a self-driving car I'd imagine the journey would take twice as long, as it would keep stopping to give way to avoid an accident - and drivers would definitely try to take advantage of that.

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luma wrote: post #91

I think what people are missing here is an understanding of how these systems are tested and deployed at scale. While I have no involvement with Tesla I do have first-hand knowledge of similar programs at tier 1 automotive suppliers. The suppliers provide (or are looking to provide) an electronics suite to car manufacturers. The car manufacturers want the system to be safe lest they be sued out of existence. One part…

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Post by raisedbyninjas »

ZanyProgrammer wrote: post #407
doikor wrote: post #367

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It will be a long time before Teslas can drive on dirt roads or roads covered in snow. But most daily driving happens on pavement either on the highway or in the city. Both of which it already handles quite well and will just get better.

Most daily driving happens where software engineers in the Bay Area live, you mean.

80% of the US lives in an urban area as of 2010.
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