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Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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> huh? It's horrifying https://www.hillaryclinton.com/post/donald-trump-pepe-the-fr... Edit: In response to your edit, she's attacking a cartoon frog . In seriousness. Not only that, but she's trying to attribute characteristics to that frog that simply aren't any core part of why people post Pepe memes. All of that questions the sensibilities of her campaign. Basically her campaign is going all out trying to paint T…

I especially love the pop-up modal asking me "Is Trump unfit to be President?" on that site. There's only a single button (I Agree), and clicking the X in the corner to close the modal causes the button to be pushed at the same time. For someone as "experienced" as Clinton, her campaign is astoundingly incompetent.

> There's only a single button (I Agree), and clicking the X in the corner to close the modal causes the button to be pushed at the same time.

Huh? No it doesn't. It just closes the modal. Pressing the button does a different thing.

Try it out in a fresh Incognito window, or equivalent.

Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Honestly, I don't know the applicable laws very well (or at all). This was just an honest question. Given all the contention over the HRC email thing and specifically over this reddit revelation, I'm not so sure that the situation we have is clearly defined within the laws (otherwise why wouldn't everything be clear cut and decided already?).

The law behind the mishandling of classified information is from the 1950s and is mostly outdated. http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudenc... What is clear however, is that judging Clinton's mishandling of emails as a crime, when only one person in a hundred years in completely different circumstances has been prosecuted for the same crime, would be unprecedented. http://www.politico.com/blogs/un…

>federal law doesn’t prohibit the discussion of classified information over unsecured networks."

Seriously? "Oh, man, we sure left a loophole you can drive a truck through! Better update the training materials to make sure clearance holders know this is kosher..."

Sorry, but my prior on this claim is just way too low to casually accept that the analysis, as given in the first link, is plugging the relevant laws into the facts. Classified-material law just doesn't make sense if something like that is legal.

Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Regardless of your politics or beliefs of what happened, I think a simple bit of advice is truth: If you are going to run an e-mail server in difficult circumstances then hire a System Administrator who does not need to post obviously problematic questions to Reddit.

Under a freaking user name that can be easily traced back to them. I mean, seriously?

On reddit of all places, where it takes all of ten seconds to create a throwaway handle.

Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Sure; nearly all those stories are off topic for HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html I assume this one's different because of the Reddit connection.

When content moderation rules like these are infrequently enforced they cant be taken seriously.

If this is 'infrequently' I'm not sure what we do all day!

Moderation consistency is impossible, because we can't come close to reading everything here. We do our best.

Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Those are great talking points. Unfortunately, every single person that I know, that has a security clearance, can easily punch holes in almost all your points. My views are based on what I have read and what I have been told by people with, collectively, 100+ years of security clearance holding. * The Clinton private email server was not cleared for handling classified info. Yet classified information went through i…

You and your friends with your 100+ years of security clearance holding are free to have an opinion on Clinton's handling of her private email server. What you cannot reasonably do, is take the legal opinion of the Director of the FBI, that the Clinton case is different from the Petraeus case, and disagree based on the fact that you have 100+ years of security clearance holding. I have explained to you key points in…

I am not writing about the narrow issues of Petraeus vs Clinton but about the well known and well understood, by some 6 million current and former security clearance holders, methods and requirements of handling classified info.

Petraeus vs Clinton is a red herring, I didn't mention Petraeus. I was referring to the case of Brian Nishimura.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-05/peak-fbi-corruption...

Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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You and your friends with your 100+ years of security clearance holding are free to have an opinion on Clinton's handling of her private email server. What you cannot reasonably do, is take the legal opinion of the Director of the FBI, that the Clinton case is different from the Petraeus case, and disagree based on the fact that you have 100+ years of security clearance holding. I have explained to you key points in…

I am not writing about the narrow issues of Petraeus vs Clinton but about the well known and well understood, by some 6 million current and former security clearance holders, methods and requirements of handling classified info. Petraeus vs Clinton is a red herring, I didn't mention Petraeus. I was referring to the case of Brian Nishimura. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-05/peak-fbi-corruption...

You linked to an article that only mentioned Petraeus in your previous comment. Regardless, Comey spoke briefly on Nishimura as well so my response is the same.

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1607/07/wolf.01.html

Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Clinton may be corrupt and sleazy, but the country can survive 4 or even 8 years of that - it did many times before. Whereas 4 years of a sociopath with megalomania, a definitive authoritarian streak, and a massive populist backing, I'm not so sure about. Let me put it this way. As a third party supporter, your strategy, presumably, is to slowly accrue vote until your candidate of choice (or really, anyone who's will…

Interesting, because I feel exactly the opposite. Corruption is the #1 thing that destroys countries. Nothing else comes close. A "sociopath with megalomania" on the other hand can't really do much to hurt the country (no one would let him). And I don't see how "a definitive authoritarian streak, and a massive populist backing" are a problem. i.e. secret damage to a country is much worse than open damage.

> Corruption is the #1 thing that destroys countries. Nothing else comes close.

Really? Militaristic jingoism has historically been a pretty popular choice to commit national suicide, for example.

The thing about corruption is that it's not violently destructive. It slowly erodes the system, but it takes a lot of time, and the process is reversible at practically any point.

> A "sociopath with megalomania" on the other hand can't really do much to hurt the country (no one would let him).

That seems to be a common retort that I've encountered among reluctant Trump supporters - that checks and balances would prevent anything really damaging.

I don't feel like it's particularly well supported by experience. Just to give a simple example, not only Japanese-American internment during WW2 was found to be legal and constitutional, but the corresponding SCOTUS decision (Korematsu) still stands. Which means that the president can sign a similar EO, and it'll be in force per existing precedent until SCOTUS gets a chance to overturn - and even then there are no guarantees.

And then there's a slew of accumulated post-9/11 precedent, which, in the hands of someone who thinks that torture is a good idea, among other reasons, "because they deserve it", could blow up big time.

> And I don't see how "a definitive authoritarian streak, and a massive populist backing" are a problem.

I'm not sure how to respond to that.

If you mean that you don't see it as desirable, but also don't think that it's dangerous, I would like to remind you that this is something that has repeated many times in history in the past 100 years alone, and pretty much every time resulted in authoritarian societies, with all that entails - political dictatorships, massive human rights violations, and often, wars with neighbors.

If you mean that you actually see it as desirable, I don't think that we have sufficient common ground to meaningfully discuss this subject.

Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Meanwhile there is a picture of Hillary embracing a KKK member that the corrupt media refuses to mention. The kingmakers don't give a good goddamn about racism, except as a convenient narrative for purges. The 21st century equivalent of accusations of communism. https://i.sli.mg/FdqTAx.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Byrd “It is almost impossible to imagine the United States Senate without Robert Byrd. He wa…

Way to give the half 'truth' there, it's a supreme irony that DT supporters are ready to call anyone a shill but are just fine parading lies because they feel repeating it often enough makes it true. > Meanwhile there is a picture of Hillary embracing a KKK member actually > Meanwhile there is a picture of Hillary embracing a FORMER KKK member who said that joining the KKK was "the greatest mistake I ever made."

Well as long as the former racist said hes no longer racist then case closed. I couldn't fathom why a KKK member would want to pretend hes not racist.

Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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I think everyone who supports a Republican candidate supports Trump more than any other Republican candidate at the moment, seeing as how, y'know, the party picked him to represent them in this election. This doesn't prove anything?

Other than the fact that dozens of prominent Republicans have rejected him? Including former Republican Presidents of the United States... who have come out and said they will vote for HRC, and that they do so because they can't bring themselves to vote for a tyrannical monster?

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Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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I think everyone who supports a Republican candidate supports Trump more than any other Republican candidate at the moment, seeing as how, y'know, the party picked him to represent them in this election. This doesn't prove anything?

Other than the fact that dozens of prominent Republicans have rejected him? Including former Republican Presidents of the United States... who have come out and said they will vote for HRC, and that they do so because they can't bring themselves to vote for a tyrannical monster?

Lol. Downvoting me doesn't change the fact that GWB and other prominent Republicans are choosing to vote for HRC over Trump. You can hit that down arrow all you want, facts are facts and I'm sorry they bother you so.
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