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Re: iPhone 7

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Post by Zr40 »

eeeeeeeeeeeee wrote: post #238
acomjean wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't get over the headphone jack either. Another dongle to loose. Tons of headphones obsoleted. Can't charge while listening. Laggy audio. more batteries in the world. They're ok with a bulge for the camera but not headphones? I work in a lab and a phone with headphones is standard equipment on the commute and work (for at least part of the day). I would seriously move off iOS if I was making music with it. If onl…

The lag is what I'm curious about. Given the lag I experience while streaming Bluetooth from my iPhone to my car, I'm expecting to see about the same amount of lag. Which is annoying because it's definitely a worse experience than a cable.

Bluetooth audio lag does depend on the buffer size of the audio device. My car also has a two second lag when playing through Bluetooth, but my Bluetooth headphones have nearly no perceptible lag at all.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by rsync »

ropiku wrote: post #227
rsync wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I never got to the point you are at because I could never get over the USB jack. It took 30 fucking years and a lot of blood sweat and tears but finally finally there is a global, universal, cheap and simple charging standard that just works. You can find a USB port anywhere and there are extra cables everywhere and life is just slightly better all around. Except for Apple.

Apple already had their standard before there was USB-C. Do you think yet another port migration would be well received ?

I'm not talking about USB-C.

I'm talking about the ability to walk off an airplane, in any country in the world, and having forgotten both my charging cable and my charger, I can find a plain old USB port somewhere[1] and someone (possibly my hotel) can hand me a plain old USB cable and I can charge my (device).

[1] On my own laptop, preferably.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by chubot »

jimjimjim wrote: post #371

so, what's the next market/eco-system? mobiles are mature products and the players are strictly in cash-cow or market share mode. nothing of importance is changing. I've got an iphone se and an iphone 4 and you can't tell me that's the most they can do for 6 years of product development by one of the richest companies in the world. (yes i know that it's faster with more a and more b and more c etc) Apple needs to dri…

IoT and VR are the obvious technologies that have been introduced after smart phones. They both have significant obstacles in addition to the significant potential.

I won't pretend to know how things will pan out -- I agree with the idea that inventing the future is easier than predicting it.

I'd like to hear some contrarian thinking against IoT and VR. And maybe a list of "next big things" that weren't. Clean tech might be one of them. I recall some pre-www hype by Bill Gates about the "CD-ROM business", which seems to have been less of a business than a cheap distribution medium. Flip cameras were a blip.

This definitely applies: http://paulgraham.com/startupideas.html

"Live in the future and build what seems interesting"

People trying to jump on trends are usually too late, because 1) they pick the wrong trend due to lack of fundamental understanding, and 2) It takes years to develop true expertise.

The people really profiting from deep learning now were toiling in obscurity 10 years ago. And plenty of people picked a line of AI research 10 years ago that has already fallen out of favor. There's no free lunch: risk and reward go hand in hand.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by mark-r »

DCKing wrote: post #396
slg wrote: post #5

I still can't get over the headphone jack. Apple does have a good record of abandoning technologies at the right time (floppies, CDs, Flash, etc) but the biggest difference is that those technologies were all on the downward slope of their popularity when Apple made the move and all had solid replacements available at the time. The headphone jack is just as popular today as it has ever been and it is still more conve…

To be fair to Apple, I think they have a good point. Digital connectors are superior in almost every way (space use, port flexibility, sound quality, even cable integrity). I admire them for ripping off the bandaid, like they did previously with disk drives and parrallel ports. Someone needs to lead the way to abandon legacy, and Apple can do that far more effectively than others (e.g. Motorola has also abandoned hea…

I just bought a Moto X, and I'm glad I did because the Moto Z looks like its replacement. A standard headphone jack is a basic requirement for me, anybody who doesn't have one won't get my money.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by exclusiv »

kilroy123 wrote: post #311
slg wrote: post #5

I still can't get over the headphone jack. Apple does have a good record of abandoning technologies at the right time (floppies, CDs, Flash, etc) but the biggest difference is that those technologies were all on the downward slope of their popularity when Apple made the move and all had solid replacements available at the time. The headphone jack is just as popular today as it has ever been and it is still more conve…

I just don't get the supports of this. I have a pair of bluetooth headphone and of course normal corded. Bluetooth sucks! It's buggy as hell. You have to constantly get it to re-sync with your device. Interference constantly makes the signal get crappy. Ever been on a call with your fancy blue tooth headset while someone turned on a microwave near by? I have, that shit stops working! I'm all for moving forward with a…

They're pricey (~ 450 USD), but I recommend the Sennheiser Momentum bluetooth wireless [1]. Great sound for music (aptX) and phone calls, comfortable, solid noise cancellation. You can still use them corded if you want too.

[1] https://en-us.sennheiser.com/momentum-wireless-headphones-wi...

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by TheKnack »

ceejayoz wrote: post #63
SurrealSoul wrote: post #25

Honestly if you had an iPhone 6 why would you upgrade? Better battery life is cool, and it being waterproof is novel. However, its basically the same phone for the end consumer.

In my experience, the OS starts to feel very, very slow not long after a major performance bump in the top-of-the-line iPhones.

In my experience, this is because major iOS upgrades tend to come out at the same time as new phones, and installing one major iOS version as an upgrade over the previous creates issues, especially if you've not set up a phone a new in a few years, whether it's a new phone or not. After installing a major iOS version upgrade, if you erase your phone without restoring the backup, the performance will feel new again, and battery life almost always improves.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by chadlavi »

Unklejoe wrote: post #397
Longhanks wrote: post #368

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple's adapter is only $9 ( http://www.apple.com/shop/product/MMX62AM/A/lightning-to-35-... ).

I don't see how this is related to my comment. My concern was basically about Apple being able to prohibit manufacturers from making hardware that they don't explicitly approve. (I don't know if they can or can't.)

Seems like someone could continue using the square reader with the included 3.5mm adapter cord.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by ben174 »

koolba wrote: post #232
ng-user wrote: post #58

> "Up to 5hr. of battery life on one charge" How the fuck is it acceptable to completely remove the jack and replace it with this 'superior' technology?

Will they be marketing it as 10 hours (5 left + 5 right)?

They are rightfully advertising it as '5 hours for each ear'. Which, in my case, is actually 10 hours. I only listen to podcasts - and listen to them in one ear. So when one dies, I'll switch to the other while charging the first one. It's really ideal for my use.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by eagsalazar2 »

kilroy123 wrote: post #311
slg wrote: post #5

I still can't get over the headphone jack. Apple does have a good record of abandoning technologies at the right time (floppies, CDs, Flash, etc) but the biggest difference is that those technologies were all on the downward slope of their popularity when Apple made the move and all had solid replacements available at the time. The headphone jack is just as popular today as it has ever been and it is still more conve…

I just don't get the supports of this. I have a pair of bluetooth headphone and of course normal corded. Bluetooth sucks! It's buggy as hell. You have to constantly get it to re-sync with your device. Interference constantly makes the signal get crappy. Ever been on a call with your fancy blue tooth headset while someone turned on a microwave near by? I have, that shit stops working! I'm all for moving forward with a…

This. Bluetooth just sucks. I recently tried out 3 of the top rated bluetooth headsets on Amazon after giving up a couple years ago. It still just sucks and is not reliable. Battery life is terrible if you want headphones you can use all day while at work or commuting (won't even come close to making it through the day with smaller headphones).

This is just a terrible decision IMO. OTOH I'm a diehard Nexus guy so I guess I really don't care :)

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by epberry »

srikz wrote: post #369

I somehow expected a ton of conversation around the new A10 Fusion chip. After 340+ comments I couldn't find any mention of it (I just did a page search for A10, A10 Fusion). Apple were already ahead with their per-core performance but seems like they have widened the gap even further this time with their version of the big.LITTLE arrangement. Wonder how Qualcomm's next chips will be. From what I heard, 820 will be t…

I would be surprised if Qualcomm only did reference designs after the 820. They were forced to switch to the reference 64 bit ARM design after Apple leapfrogged mobile chipmakers and it really hurt them. They had a lot of trouble with the big.LITTLE architecture and power management which led to 810 power issues which somewhat led to Samsung dropping them for the S6.

With the 820 Qualcomm was able to make their own custom cores (I think they went with 2 or 4 instead of 8) and generally overcome the 810 trainwreck. Qualcomm's ability to integrate the radio, GPU, DSP, crypto chip and some other things with a custom CPU into a true SOC is really a massive advantage within mobile and I expect them to build on that with more custom designs.

One last note about big.LITTLE. It seems like a panacea - just move all the big jobs to the big processors and the little ones to the little processors, yay! But this is much, much harder in practice. Doing this wrong leads to disastrous UX, screen tears because rendering shifts off of the big cores being one prime example. Process scheduling is already very tough and current schedulers are the result of many years of experimentation and heuristic best practices. Of course Apple controls the whole stack (i.e. they don't need to worry about where Kernel maintainers want to go with the schedulers) and I'm sure they have some amazing engineers working on Darwin so maybe they were able to overcome problems here. If you can schedule correctly it does seem like a big power savings win. But (and I may be behind the times here) that is a big if...

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