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Google Takes on Uber with New Ride-Share Service

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Re: Google Takes on Uber with New Ride-Share Service

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I was actually just thinking about this the other day- why doesn't a large tech company with lots of cash create a ride service which basically lets the driver keep everything? Uber can't possibly compete. Google can destroy them before they can become a threat in other tech spaces.

That is what MS did by giving away IE and they got done for it.

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Your privilege is showing. Not everyone who "chose" the job they have really has a choice. It's just not that simple. BOH employee pay rates are generally not based on the assumption of tips the way they are for FOH employees. And don't forget, BOH employees don't have to deal with the way some people treat service workers.

Yours is showing too, along with an unhealthy dose of smugness. GP literally chose to be homeless instead of licking the boots of the wealthy for table scraps, which is a degree of courage above and beyond what could have been expected of him, but it was still courage. Saying that his ability to do this is privileged, is like claiming a man who saves a baby from a burning house is showing his able privilege: true, te…

> Yours is showing too, along with an unhealthy dose of smugness. GP literally chose to be homeless instead of licking the boots of the wealthy for table scraps,

Personal attacks and ideological rants are two of the things least wanted on HN, so please stop posting them.

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I had to resist the urge to break into uncontrollable laughter when you compared living in your car to saving a baby from a burning building. Since this is a throwaway I strongly suspect you are your own cheerleader. Let me see if I can take you down a peg. A man who chooses to live in his own car instead of taking a servile job is presumably still in need of food to sustain him. You are basically glorifying living o…

You are quite the cunt aren't you

We've banned this account and will ban what we believe to be your primary account if you do this again.

Re: Google Takes on Uber with New Ride-Share Service

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You are comparing apples to oranges. Driver with that experience could more easily find a job in the field.

Oh, yes I'm sure there is vast hierarchy to climb from junior, to senior up to rockstar ninja guru taxi driver. A driving license will be more than sufficient for any driving job and if it isn't, you're applying for a job like truck, stunt or test driver that requires additional training anyway.

For a minimum wage probably you're right. But if potential employer had to choose between someone with experience and someone without, who is he going to choose even if said qualifications are just a "driving license"?

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Isn't this just a starter?

Sure, but it's being used as an example of something that exists, which for the vast, vast majority of the US, doesn't. My mistake here was forgetting the echo chamber that is HN. There is a world outside SV, but it doesn't really matter.

People on HN are interesting in things that affect their lives. Curse them! I mean, really, come on.

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Guess what asshole, if you are so unstable in your existence that simply losing your job would mean you cant take care of your kids, THEN YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE KIDS.

You can't comment like this on HN. We ban accounts that do so. Fortunately you've posted other comments that are fine for HN, so I'll read this thread as the sort of derailing that happens to most of us from time to time. Comments on HN need to be civil and substantive. Heated rhetoric is neither, and personal attacks are right out. When you're hot under the collar, please cool down before posting.

I shared my opinion, and was attacked for having that opinion. You, or he, may choose to disagree with that opinion, but calling me a prick is bound to insight a response.

I don't normally make posts like that, but I'm also not normally attacked.

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I don't think people (as least zero of the people I associate with) have any problem with tipping in the United States - it's just so understood it's what you do when in a restaurant, that the only question is usually one of "(A) I'm Lazy, don't want to calculate, 20% tip, (B) I'm being anal, figure out exact 18.5% tip, (C) Got poor service, 15% tip, (D) Waiter spit in my food and was really obnoxious/rude to me - 10…

> Waiter spit in my food and was really obnoxious/rude to me - 10% tip It is absolutely insane to me that you would tip anything at all in that case. US tipping culture is crazy. In what situation would you give 0% tip?

I've only ever left 0% tip once. It was because I had to repeatedly get up from the table to find the server, first to order, then to get the check, possibly another time when I needed something and they never came back to check after the food was delivered.

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Realistically, if the restaurant owner has to contribute anything beyond their hourly rate to the paycheck of the server, that server will be fired (or the business is so slow that it will go under soon).

Not necessarily. I briefly worked at a 24x7 roadside place where tipped employees would occasionally fall under minimum wage due to slow periods or customers who would either stiff the waitress or tip out $0.35 on an egg, toast, coffee which cost $2.65. That place systematically robbed those staff by refusing to pay minimum wage and falsifying records and withholding taxes based in nonexistent tips. The Labor departm…

I'm not sure how this contradicts what I said. Your experience showed that the business was not contributing anymore to your paycheck than the normal wage. Had they not been breaking the law, they probably would have fired someone due to the "extra" expense.

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You can't comment like this on HN. We ban accounts that do so. Fortunately you've posted other comments that are fine for HN, so I'll read this thread as the sort of derailing that happens to most of us from time to time. Comments on HN need to be civil and substantive. Heated rhetoric is neither, and personal attacks are right out. When you're hot under the collar, please cool down before posting.

I shared my opinion, and was attacked for having that opinion. You, or he, may choose to disagree with that opinion, but calling me a prick is bound to insight a response. I don't normally make posts like that, but I'm also not normally attacked.

Ok, but you still can't respond like that. The rules apply regardless of whether someone else started it or did worse. Otherwise everyone would have an excuse for everything, since it always feels like someone else started it.

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Living wage destroys the ability for people to make a little extra on the side with part-time gigs.

The term itself is sort of ridiculous as well, since most advocates for it want a $15 an hour minimum wage, which is nearly twice what I lived on for quite a while, and is far above the median purchasing power amongst all people. And to be blunt, most of the people I worked with for less than $8 an hour were barely worth what they were being payed then. At $15 an hour there is just no way they would be able to find e…

Yeah I could take issue with the term too. At least with minimum wage (which has the same issues wrt a price floor, like many forms of work not being worth the minimum $x/hr the law requires) it's the same at the city/state/federal level you live in so you can properly account for it, and in the ideal case is enough to "live" on so proponents are happy. "Living wage" is inherently more subjective. I can live almost anywhere in the US at that place's minimum wage or less -- if I live like a college student, or a bit worse. It's not enough to support a family on. But too often a living wage gets set at some high price it takes to rent a studio apartment alone in your area and eat out every night, and maybe even support a child. It's just a nebulous term.

I live in the Seattle area where $15/hr is the minimum wage now for the city proper. Sure certain businesses still have another year or two to implement it, and other businesses another 5 or so years, but I'm looking forward to seeing the results over time and how well they match various parties' predictions when the law was passed.

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