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I learned that will laugh at a joke three times: * First when you tell it, * then when you explain it, * then finally when they get it. (x used to be English people when I was a kid.)
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“It's The Future”
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> I am frustrated by the industry as a whole. I feel industry is simply following marketing trends. My work lands me in a number of different conferences in non-software industries. This is true for all industries. Its just that ours has a faster revolving door. That, in addition to a low barrier to entry (anyone can claim they're a web developer), leads to a higher degree of this madness. Its just part of human beha…
Another way to signal others that you, too, are an insider is by calling a current trend a hype.
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I'm obviously biased. Most of Cloud Foundry is built the way I like software to be built. Pair programming, TDD, small balanced teams, prioritising for user valu. That style of development is actually baked into the Cloud Foundry Foundation rules. Companies who join the Foundation are expected to send engineers to ramp up on developing in this style. And voting rights are based on the number of full-time engineers yo…
This is awesome! So you're telling me that not telling the world that you have a high quality, tested, opensource, fully functional, container based Heroku-clone is deliberate ? Please excuse me while I take an hour to digest that.
Right now the companies who provide the most engineering -- Pivotal and IBM -- are laser-focused on capturing enterprise dollars.
Which from a business perspective makes perfect sense. Pivotal's commercial distribution of Cloud Foundry (PivotalCF) holds the record for fastest-growing sales of any opensource product. Ever.
But there's not much effort on promoting to devs and startups (IBM are starting to do this more with BlueMix, which is their CF distribution). But it's early days.
So basically you'll usually find that I and a sprinkling of my colleagues show up in threads like these out of the goodness of our hearts and fondness for our work.
Obviously I have a financial interest. Pivotal makes money from PivotalCF, I work for Pivotal I'm on an options plan as well. So YMMV.
But I think Cloud Foundry is just ... way ahead, in terms of actually getting work done.
Edit: and since I'm musing aloud about business-y things, I should emphasise again that nothing I say is in an official capacity, consult your lawyer, financial planner and astrologer, etc etc.
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#444"-No, look into microservices. It’s the future. It’s how we do everything now. You take your monolithic app and you split it into like 12 services. One for each job you do. That seems excessive" A 100 times yes. We tried to split our monolithic Rails app into micro-services built in Go. 2 years and many fires later, we decided to abandon the project. It was mostly because the monitoring and alerting were now split in…
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#446Don't listen to hype. Look at the problems you need to solve. If you need a big, complex, distributed system, than maybe microservices are a good idea. If you're building a simple webapp... not so much. Things that work in the large don't necessarily work in the small. I write stuff in Scheme. I'm a hobbyist, there's no reason for me not to, and I love the language. The apps I write are sometimes single-threaded (or…
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I thought it's more important WHAT you run inside containers than containers itself. I got really upset about this rancher tool because it doesn't design my database schema. Shit, future was so close.
You still have to write code, define your database schema and declare config files to specify how containers should be orchestrated but soon open source developers will start creating frameworks/boilerplates which capture some of these requirements and which can automatically run and scale on Kubernetes/Swarm/Mesos and this will greatly speed up application development and deployment. Right now, we think of framework…
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You should mention it costs $20 for information that can be found for free anywhere on the web. While other users answer the question, you simply refer to your piggy bank, shameless.
> You should mention it costs $20 for information that can be found for free anywhere on the web. While other users answer the question, you simply refer to your piggy bank, shameless. Yep, it costs $20. Basically the cost of chinese food for 2, to ensure guaranteed victory in learning the essentials of AWS' platform while having a guided tour on how to deploy a fault tolerant web app with Amazon ECS from start to fi…
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#449Man, I dont think this is the future at all. OK, Docker is good and has its propose, and is very good on what its do: "Run only one process in one brand new kernel", but beyond than that, its just a daemon that uses and abuses of linux containers, you can easily scale, but is a pain in the ass to upgrade apps, also you need to run only one process on that. Does not looks like the future for me to have 30 different li…
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#450This comment is over simplistic and reads like it was written by someone who doesn't know what they're talking about. All of these technologies have their place, but they should be adopted incrementally and where it makes sense. Posting a frenetic conversation benefits no one.