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Re: Please remove mitsuhiko/*

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Congrats, you just decided that gold miners are the most altruistic people in the world, charging people only what it costs to mine the gold, not what the market would bear. I wish other companies could be so generous! Also, I would recommend "Making Money" by Terry Prachet. Good book that actually explores a lot of the same ideas behind gold as the basis of a currency. In essence, the main character eventually reali…

Ah - that was a simplification. If it costs $1000 to mine and sells for $2000 then short term the miners will make a profit but long term people will build more mines. This is a slow process - 10 or 20 years but eventually supply exceeds demand, the price drops to $700 or some such, the miners go bust and the cycle repeats. But generally the price stays within a factor of two or so of the production cost.

so you talk about supply and demand, yet think cost is set purely by suppliers? What do you think would happen to the cost of potatoes if only 10% of last years harvest was harvested this year. It would go up, but only to the point where the supply vs. demand equalized, i.e. 90% of people wouldn't be buying potatoes cause they cost way too much, but there would be 10% of the people(like my wife) who would still be willing to buy them at $50 for 5 pounds, cause she values potatoes that much(she's got a serious fixation on potato soup). I.e. the value of a good depends on the person doing the valuing, i.e. subjective value.

Re: Please remove mitsuhiko/*

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Overstock uses Coinbase for checkout and converts the majority of it to dollars immediately. They have recently begun to hold about 10% of sales made in Bitcoin as Bitcoin and have disclosed this as a risk in their latest 10-Q to investors. Bitcoin accounts for 0.25% of sales, so they're keeping 0.025% of revenue as Bitcoin. While many may argue the prudence of such a decision (and subsequent disclosure), it's import…

So, they are holding Bitcoin. Are you going to disclose too that Bitcoin went up 300% since last year? Or you prefer to cherry-pick a shorter time period to make it fit your narrative?

They weren't accepting bitcoin when it was 1/3rd the current price so that figure is irrelevant(also over the past year it is now only up 50% and will be down in less than 2 weeks without some major upwards movement). They started accepting it in January when it was ~300% higher than it is now.

Re: Please remove mitsuhiko/*

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Alright, lets remove tip4commit server from picture. So to put you in jail I just need to find any project you work on, find your name and ask for donations on your behalf? Doesn't this sounds wrong to you? also, people who downvoting here - make sure to read HN rules about what downvotes are for. They are not to downvote different ideas, but to remove useless posts.

> So to put you in jail I just need to find any project you work on, find your name and ask for donations on your behalf? No, you would not be able to put me in jail. At worst, the penalty would be a fine. But that would not happen in practice. What would happen is that I receive a letter from the local authorities, demanding me to explain why there are donations being asked for under my name. Responding might need m…

In other words, it is possible to make life miserable, not jailed. And the only way to be protected against it is to not be know. Security by obscurity. This sounds like an incorrect approach, especially from member of "hacker" community.

Re: Please remove mitsuhiko/*

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Why would being opt-in kill the project?

Because instead of having a million projects, you'd have 3. The power of defaults and opt-out is pretty well-understood to the point I'd call it non-controversial.

So what? That is a typical use case for an opt-in platform with possible good outcomes. If you do it opt-out, it's unsolicited, unwelcomed and just badly setup. This discussion and the one on Github itself is a perfect example why.

You can't blame someone else for not having a responsible (e.g. opt-in) growth engine...

Re: Please remove mitsuhiko/*

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In other words, their subjective value? Gold has no value to me at all, as I don't have any use for it. If you tried to sell me gold, the only reason I'd buy it is if I could immediately resell it for a profit. My subjective value of gold is, therefore, $0.

The price of gold is not really determined by it's subjective value. It's determined by the cost to mine the stuff. The reason 5 lbs of potatoes cost like $5 and 5 lbs of gold costs like $90,000 is because that's what it costs to dig them up even if you prefer the potatoes.

It is also very difficult and expensive to dig into the ground with your bare hands and fish out worms, but if you did so you wouldn't be able to charge huge amounts of money for your hand-fished worms. Why? Because worms have almost no subjective value.

Re: Please remove mitsuhiko/*

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Overstock uses Coinbase for checkout and converts the majority of it to dollars immediately. They have recently begun to hold about 10% of sales made in Bitcoin as Bitcoin and have disclosed this as a risk in their latest 10-Q to investors. Bitcoin accounts for 0.25% of sales, so they're keeping 0.025% of revenue as Bitcoin. While many may argue the prudence of such a decision (and subsequent disclosure), it's import…

So, they are holding Bitcoin. Are you going to disclose too that Bitcoin went up 300% since last year? Or you prefer to cherry-pick a shorter time period to make it fit your narrative?

Yes, they are. But only recently, and only a small relative about. I'd forgotten that they'd started doing it a couple months back. That's why I said 'basically all of them', because every other major site I'm aware of that accepts bitcoin doesn't hold any bitcoin. It's immediately converted to dollars at sale time because holding bitcoin for even part of a day is a huge and completely unnecessary risk for a retailer.

The timeframe I mentioned is relevant to Overstock because they were not holding any bitcoin last year. They only began accepting it this year and only began holding it more recently. So only its recent (poor) performance is relevant to Overstock and its investors. As such, it would appear to have been a bad decision in the short term.

I'm not the one in this back and forth who is cherry-picking. Bitcoin up over a different timeframe (a year, since inception, etc) is irrelevant to Overstock, just as its drop to 1/2 of its value over the last few months may be less relevant to your Bitcoin holdings.

Full disclosure: I hold .24826531 Bitcoin personally and in conjunction with my open source project and run Bitcoin Core 0.9.3 64-bit on Windows.

Re: Please remove mitsuhiko/*

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The person who replied to him basically just said, "I disagree." They didn't provide any reasons for this. They were also being rude. I think his response was appropriate.

When you're factually wrong, there's not much to say other than "you're wrong and this is why." When you get saucy about being wrong...

But you didn't provide the "why" part. And he wasn't being saucy at first. He only did that after you didn't say why you disagreed.

Re: Please remove mitsuhiko/*

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When you're factually wrong, there's not much to say other than "you're wrong and this is why." When you get saucy about being wrong...

But you didn't provide the "why" part. And he wasn't being saucy at first. He only did that after you didn't say why you disagreed.

I totally provided "why." The public domain has nothing to do with open source. Copyright doesn't apply to brand use. Dude didn't research but hopped right up on that soap box, and judging from the upvotes, I wasn't the only one to be put off by it.

Re: Please remove mitsuhiko/*

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But you didn't provide the "why" part. And he wasn't being saucy at first. He only did that after you didn't say why you disagreed.

I totally provided "why." The public domain has nothing to do with open source. Copyright doesn't apply to brand use. Dude didn't research but hopped right up on that soap box, and judging from the upvotes, I wasn't the only one to be put off by it.

You didn't say that in the reply that he responded to.

Re: Please remove mitsuhiko/*

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I'm really, really surprised and confused by what seems to be the overall sentiment here. This tipping project was born of a hackathon combining cryptocurrency (cool) and supporting open source projects. Awesome! Then when people started getting tipped tiny amounts it generated spam... annoying, but it was fixed. It's a bit outrageous to claim that emailing someone after they have received free money (over some thres…

hey, i have another great idea combining two wonderful things: children (wonderful) and sex. Awesome! I'm off to email you some offers...
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